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pwasser wrote: Internet access is not universal in China and much of the internet is blocked.
That's not nearly as true as certain vested interests would want you to believe.
There are more smartphones in use in China than just about anywhere else, and it's only "not universal" in tiny villages, a million miles from nowhere (quite a lot of China is barely populated; is there "universal Internet access" in the middle of spaghetti-western country, or the backwoods of Alaska?)
If you got a lot of hits just after start-up, then it was probably spiders for Baidu, etc, to make your web-site more easily available to searches. I dare say you got far more admin hits from google, yahoo, and the NSA, each of which would have hit the site multiple times from a small IP block.
Do bear in mind that you're talking about a country where a large chunk of the goods you use (including apple and other brand smartphones) are made; a billion people with TVs, smartphones, computers, etc. It's not some weird dictatorship, where everyone is spied on constantly by the government.
That description fits the US and UK better, these days.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Take no notice in Mark W's link below - anything that he perceives as even vaguely Sinophobic is cause for an immediate defensive posture.
He has a few other knee-jerk response patterns. Feel free to deduce and invoke them at your leisure.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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They are probably trying to guess a password by brute force. Or they are trying to find a vulnerability in your website.
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You replied to the wrong post !
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Um....do an experiment.
Set up a new website.
Wonder why you immediately get thousands and thousands of hits from China, even before the site shows up on any search engine.
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You replied to the wrong post !
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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Exactly
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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GenJerDan wrote: Wonder why you immediately get thousands and thousands of hits from China, even before the site shows up on any search engine.
Because it has to be spidered before it can show up on any search engine.
After seeing that happen, go to baidu.cn and search for terms relevant to the site.
Congratulations! You've been made available through the world's biggest search engine!
If your text isn't at least partly in Chinese, though, you'll drop off the rankings pretty quick, because Chinese surfers tend to like to read stuff in their own language.
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Nope.
We were talking about this the other day here. One of the guys set up a machine that wasn't even going to be a website, just a system that was going to feed another one across the country.
As soon as they turned it on, they were hit.
It's like there are systems out there that just continually go through all possible IP addresses and latch onto any that show active.
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And this tells you what?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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That some entity in China is looking for a "way in" to any system it can find, in hopes of using it for some purpose at some point in time.
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E.g. some smart@rse little jerk (one of the several million students studying computering in China) thinks he's a clever smart@rse little jerk, who can do anything, to anyone, anywhere on-line (unless a girl walks into the room, of course, because then his keyboard clogs up with drool), and get away with it.
That's the thing. It reminds me of all the cr@p we had to deal with from smart@rse little American jerks studying computering, back in the day.
There weren't so many smart@rse little English jerks, because English universities used to demand that students spend their time do some actual studying (accent on the "used to").
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Bluddy plankies are so doused in propaganda that they immediately treat everything that is connected with China with suspicion, and consider that to be acceptable behaviour.
They'd serve themselves better by viewing the activities of corporations like google, and the US "security forces", with suspicion.
Every search engine in the world spiders every site, and China has the biggest search engine in the world, along with several that aren't the biggest.
What Baidu will not have done, though, is (cue dramatic music) link the site to every visitor's Google account, and report it all to the NSA. They'll just have spidered it, to make the pages searchable.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: link the site to every visitor's Google account, and report it all to the NSA
Of course! Because in China their is no State Security agency, and of course, no connection what-so-ever between the government and manufacturing and media.
After all - that would mean that the Chinese government might limit what its citizens are allowed to view on the internet - and that could never happen. Likewise, as they enjoy their unimpeded internet access they'd never think of recording URL's, who visits them, and how often.
So - with that in mind - you're totally correct as always. After all: by decree, all government bureaucrats are so selfless and innocent they crap white - just like pandas!
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: in China their is no State Security agency that gives a bloody blue damn about web-sites owned and produced by US citizens
A little truth added.
Paranoia is treatable, you know.
Step one is to realise the difference between propaganda and reality.
Step two, in this case, would be to stop looking at the dangerous panda that's a million miles away, occupied with what the other pandas are doing, and pay attention to the wolves just outside your door.
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Or - as your mentors would have you speak and believe: "Ignore the man behind the curtain".
You do realize that your last sentence doesn't even rise up to the standards of "ridiculous", don't you?
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: You do realize that your last sentence doesn't even rise up to the standards of "ridiculous" I've been subjected to so much propaganda that I cannot believe anything bad about the USA and our beloved leaders, don't you?
'Course I do. That's kinda the point.
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It's comforting to know you're predictably deflecting.
You see - there's a difference - you go laughably ballistic whenever anyone even slight maligns (in your opinion) China. I, on the other hand, have no shortage of posts criticizing pretty much everywhere that deserves it - and criticizing the US has never been omitted.
You see - that's the neat thing about living here - we're allowed to, and in fact supposed to criticize the government. Yeah - we had a McCarthy era - and thankfully escaped it. You and your Chinese idols? Not so much. Hell - we even allow people to wear their national dress in this country - in public - even to school. And speak and write any language they wish. It's a Damn Gulag!
*(Sorry, lad: beloved leader, however, is your style of terminology, more or less)
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: you go laughably ballistic
Um, who is it you're talking about, again?
You're either communicating with an alternative universe, or you're a complete nutter.
Oh, actually, both of those mean you're a complete nutter. Sorry for the repetition.
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we've blocked huge numbers of Chinese IP addrs from our site. for some reason they like to run bots which download everything (including multi-MB ZIPs) on our site every 30 minutes.
we're not going to pay for bandwidth to keep their bots fed.
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I think it is automated.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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I generally only monitor the ftp traffic for hacking attempts. When I first started really watching it a few years ago, it was shocking to me how many attempts were being made to 'break in' as well as the lack of a built-in mechanism (server '08) for defeating the type of dictionary attacks that were being used. When I started checking into the IP addresses, the vast majority were originating from China. For server '08, my only defense is the IP blacklist, so I got a list of current Chinese ISP blocks and wrote a utility to import them into IIS. Worked like a charm! Hacking attempts dropped off by at least 75%. The other thing I did was to create a new FTP user called administrator with a password of... (you can't tell anyone else OK?) 'admin'. In their read-only private directory is a lone text file that kindly asks them to bugger off.
I have noticed a new round of hacking in the last couple of weeks, mostly from the middle east and Amsterdam. It seems like these hackers must maintain and share a list or something. Also, the attacks are getting more creative, using the hostname and even keywords from the homepage. One of these days, and soon, I will either upgrade to server '12 which has dynamic IP blocking built in, or try to get the ftp working under apache (or other) either under windows or in a VM.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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One reason is to find a proxy server to get to other web sites. A few years back, I was looking at some logs of a filtering appliance that we kept changing between wide open and extremely closed (long story) and at one point discovered World of Warcraft traffic coming from China.
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And what happens in future? Will there be any OS to compete with Windows and then change the scenario!!
modified 8-Apr-15 8:59am.
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