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Celtica[^]
Completely AWESOME!
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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I have marked your post as abuse 
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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Aaarrrghhh!
Rock! Give me rock!
To throw at the buggers!
Marmite for the ears.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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...is there an API to TFS on-line? So I can write my own UI.. One that makes sense?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Just get Wireshark/Fiddler on the go, MITM yourself (they use HTTPS) and figure it out that way. Then write any UI you want.
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JMK-NI wrote: Just get Wireshark/Fiddler on the go, MITM yourself (they use HTTPS) and figure it out that way.
I would hope that the URL parameters, JSON, request body, whatever, would be encrypted and also have some sort of authorization token associated with it! It is, like you said, HTTPS!
Marc
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When I said:
JMK-NI: figure it out that way
I didn't specify a timeframe 
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Note sure about Wireshark, but it is easy to intercept this with Fiddler. The basics of it are that you create a certificate which you then tell your browser to accept.
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TFS has an object model[^] that may be of use. No XML docs, though.
API Docs may be found here[^].
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
The metaphorical solid rear-end expulsions have impacted the metaphorical motorized bladed rotating air movement mechanism.
Do questions with multiple question marks annoy you???
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Coder For Hire wrote: ...is there an API to TFS on-line?
Yes, there is. VS uses it. Rather seamlessly, I might add.
May I ask why you need to go to the web site at all? Or do you not use VS at all?
(not trolling - yeah, the web UI sucks, but I never have to use it...)
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The source control component in TFS is fine. But the agile components via a browser suck ass.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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I wasn't aware people actually used that, other than bloggers who try to convince others they should.
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Who designed this UI? Total unintuitive.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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I spent forever trying to figure out how to navigate to a specific area of the backlog. Finally I asked someone and the showed me the clear-as-mud link thingy at the top that drops down the list thingy.
Why would they not use a hierarchical format, like maybe a collapsible tree on the left??
Then, in the Kanban board - the BLI's don't show their number, so when I'm given task "BLI #1234", I have to type the number into search just to find it.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Nice, thanks!
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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JMK-NI wrote: total shambles
Just the UI? 
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The most amazing part to me is on backlog pages, even though the UI seems to indicate you can sort the column (it goes gray shaded), you cannot sort AT ALL. 
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Whenever I see things like "[summat] on-line", "as a service", or "cloud-based", I tend to turn and walk the other way.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Weird. I've never had a problem with it.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Probably the same people who designed the on-prem version. It is totally counter-intuitive and takes forever to find simple stuff. Having come from a job where I used the Atlassian suite (Jira, Bamboo etc) I've found the TFS suite to be torture. Sadly the group I joined have been using it so long something akin to Stockholm syndrome has taken root. You can show them how much better the experience could be using different tools but they get a panicked look and say "but it's not Microsoft". Don't get me wrong, I like C# and Visual Studio but their ALM suite is stuck in the early 2000s when RTC was the biggest player in that space and waterfall was "the" project management standard.
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That's funny, I'm having a similar experience, but made the opposite assessment. My company has been using TFS for many years, and one of our newer people has brought Jira in for his team and I find it incomprehensible. Besides the UI looking visually outdated in Jira, I find the workflow is incomprehensible. I do see the same workflow issues with the TFS web site that are being highlighted in this thread, but they are minor compared to trying to figure out how to navigate Jira.
I think it has a lot to do with what you are used to, I'm sure the reason you get the panicked look is because they are used to the tool they are using today.
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