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_Maxxx_ wrote: I didn't know it came with free games! (bought it 2nd hand) Will have to look into that - don't mind leaving it downloading for a while if it is free!
Bought ours new at Christmas. The games are vouchers to download.
_Maxxx_ wrote: Was also dead chuffed that Minecraft is now only $6
Kids (18 and 15 in the weeks after Christmas) wanted shoot the sh*t out of things games that were more like AUD$90.00 each. No idea what the games are as I don't give a rat's arse about them.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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Yeah - it astounds me that there are like 4 or 5 versions of the same game, and they all want the latest release that is pretty much exactly the same , but costs $90 while the old version gets sold off for $10
then they spend the $90 and still play the old one!
Still, it's only money, and I'm rich! *
*sarcasm
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"But you've got to finish the first three in the series, or you won't fully understand everything that happens in the fourth!"
With luck, by the time they get around to it, the fourth one is in the bargain bin.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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_Maxxx_ wrote: Was also dead chuffed that Minecraft is now only $6
I think it's only if you played minecraft on XB360 before and it will be that cheap only for few months. IIRC they announced it as upgrade option for one year after launch on xbox one (it was somewhere around summer).
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"My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."
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Should've gone with a variant of my plan;[^] and let the zero day patches DL while having fun elsewhere. 
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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I saw the title and I thought we were on another Bloody Stupid Johnson thread.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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_Maxxx_ wrote: then had to wait hours because there were several Gigabytes of updates to download.
I'm just curious, how should Microsoft have handled the pushing out of updates, then? If you need the updates, how should Microsoft do this, so that users are not upset with them?...not push out updates or just make sure updates are under 50mb?
I'm not trying to pick a fight here, I just don't understand how this is Microsoft's fault. 
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Well, I don't mind HAVING to install updates that are important - but I don't get the choice - start up a new XBox & it tells me I have to apply updates - apparently no choices of which - so it is probably updating stuff for which I have no (immediate) need (like TV watching, for example)
And the size of the updates I am sure exceeds the size of the OS - so they are being lazy - don't patch, replace.
Now this is forgivable on open hardware like a PC - but on an XBOX where they have control over everything, they know (from a very small list) what hardware is there, so don't have to blanket-install stuff - they could , I am sure, make small patches for the 'urgent' fixes and give the option of applying fixes to other parts if and when the user wants to use them
It's like buying a car and not being able to drive it for a day because it needs repairing; if the brakes might fail, then sure, fix it NOW - but if the rear left speaker crackles, hell, I'll book it in for another day!
Also, frankly, requiring a couple of Gb of updates for hardware that is < 1 year old doesn't fill you with confidence that the software was well tested, does it?!
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It might also be your internet connection speed.
We just bought our son an XBOX 360, and had set it up last night. The updates only took about 5 minutes. I would think that I had the same updates you did, more or less.
Updates never bothered me. I would rather have the software working, then not working, because no updates were installed or pushed out. I think internet speed has everything to do with how fast an update gets downloaded, obviously.
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From memory the Xbox one updates were just under 2gb - though I could be wrong. The game updates were more like 4gb.
If you can dowoad 2gb in 5 mins I M envious!!!
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That's the same argument that lawyers give.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Used in a famous court case between John Ruskin and James McNeill Whistler in 1878:
John Ruskin: "The labour of two days is that for which you ask two hundred guineas?"
Whistler: "No. I ask it for the knowledge I have gained in the work of a lifetime."
Whistler v. Ruskin (1878)
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I'm an optoholic - my glass is always half full of vodka.
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Ever heard the story of the giant ship engine that failed? The ship's owners tried one expert after another, but none of them could figure but how to fix the engine. Then they brought in an old man who had been fixing ships since he was a youngster. He carried a large bag of tools with him, and when he arrived, he immediately went to work. He nspected the engine very carefully, top to bottom.
Two of the ship's owners were there, watching this man, hoping he would know what to do. After looking things over, the old man reached into his bag and pulled out a small hammer. He gently tapped something. Instantly, the engine lurched into life. He carefully put his hammer away. The engine was fixed! A week later, the owners received a bill from the old man for ten thousand dollars.
"What?!" the owners exclaimed. "He hardly did anything!"
So they wrote the old man a note saying, "Please send us an itemized bill."
The man sent a bill that read:
Tapping with a hammer ......................... $ 2.00
Knowing where to tap ............................ $ 9,998.00
Effort is important, but knowing where to make an effort in your life makes all the difference.
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Suddenly, I find myself with 2 17" monitors.
I should be happy that I have 2 of them. 
Don't ask.
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Read that as 217" monitors, now that would've been pretty sweet 
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I'm guessing you have a new job.
#SupportHeForShe If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
Only 2 things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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Wow! Time to dust off that CV!
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I got 2 26" at home! 
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I've got a 12 incher - but I don't use it as a rule
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I'm reading a book which is even better than I expected it to be:
Talk Like TED: The 9 Public-Speaking Secrets of the World's Top Minds (amazon link)[^]
I love TED Talks anyways, because so often they make me think about some subject in an entirely new way.
The book is great, because it reminds you that if you can talk about something you probably really understand it. Or, another way of saying it: if you really know something you can probably speak clearly about it and explain it.
Absolutely important to developing software.
Have you read the book? Do you like TED Talks?
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I just started watching TED talks, like last week. Interesting stuff. Thanks for the link.
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Most of TED talks are very good - you can learn a lot of things in various subjects. I do watch one in every week...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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newton.saber wrote: Have you read the book?
Not yet.
newton.saber wrote: Do you like TED Talks?
Yup. This one[^] is my current favorite.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Eddy Vluggen wrote: This one[^] is my current favorite.
Adding that one to my watch list.
Thanks.
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