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Never noticed Andorid either, but it sounds like some sort of Android rip-off 
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Nah, it's just a malfunction. 
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Even I never noticed them, yes they are new there. 
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
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I still haven't noticed it???
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Our lovely Tester is looking into automated testing; She knows little about it, is not particularly technical (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart.
I have literally no experience of any testing tools, so I am hoping you lovely chaps will be able to recommend some you may have used, and give me a bit of an overview of what makes 'em good (or bad!)
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selenium and qtp are good option. Not sure how effective but firefox have selenium expert extension. you can install it and check that.
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This[^] is a fascinating tool, me think 
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Depending on what tech is used to develop the systems you could also look into TFS Test Manager. And if you want to automate from there you can add TFS Lab Manager. Both also hook nicely into the source control and bug/task tracking subsystems.
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
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Testing is often a part of the IDE an/or the operating system. So developer can also do a good job on testing.
Press F1 for help or google it.
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_Maxxx_ wrote: (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart.
Testers must be destructive.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
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I've got a BIG hammer.
Does that count?
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That depends. Can you lift it up? 
Your time will come, if you let it be right.
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I can get it up, yes.
And I can lift my chopper[^] too!
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Thor, are you going to do some unit tests with frost giants again?
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
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Not until they get the bugs out of Ragnarök V2.0
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It already must be a bug if Thor survived Ragnarök 1.0
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
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well, she has broken a few hearts ...
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CDP1802 wrote: Testers must be destructive.
True that, but it's your fault if they succeed at it. It's no good telling them(me) to not push the red button, that's like catnip. (This test is still failing. So, I'm doing my job, what are you doing?)
Also, who would you prefer finding that little flaw that opens up your entire accounting system, a tester or a black hat? Assuming (s)he doesn't turn to the dark side.
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Testing is for sissies.
Which might unfortunately apply literaly, given the description you provided.
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i have years of experience in test automation (even developed a test tool for ui automation myself) and i can tell you, that test automation is essentially software development. you develop software (sometimes with the help of powerful libs) to automate other software.
most of the tools provide some capture replay functionality but to be honest capture replay does not work well. its like programming spagetti code 
what you will want is dev know-how to write scripts/tests in a programming language.
i can recommend ranorex as a very versatile tool with a very nice c# api.
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Thanks; I figured there's got to be some level of coding - even if it is 'only' some scripting.
I hadn't heard of ranorex - I just gave the web page a quick squiz and it does look interesting...
I may have to give our tester some programming lessons !
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well i think if you want to be productive in test automation you will quickly see recurring patterns emerge that you will want to encapsulate to increase productivity. well thats where programmings starts 
you will want to look into concepts like PageObjects to reduce the impacts changes have.
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werinus wrote: i can recommend ranorex as a very versatile tool with a very nice c# api.
Can't argue with that, but it has its quirks too. I used it for 2 months a year+ ago, it nicely records physical actions so you can build tests without coding, but then breaks for no apparent reason, so you have to dive into the code. I never got conversant with it enough to say I know it well.
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Testing? By a personage not involved in the coding? People do that? Ah, go on. You're having a giraffe. Next you'll be telling me that level designers for Candy Crush actually play the game!
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