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Hey, I didn't say "successfully".
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Voltaire never said: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it"
But that doesn't make it any worse.
It was Evelyn Beatrice Hall that ascribed it to Voltaire
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Let's be honest: There isn't a person alive who genuinely has enough information to know what is right and what is wrong in every circumstance.
Opinions and beliefs are all formed from partial information -- i.e. not enough intelligence -- and, co-incidentally, it is only people with not enough intelligence who assume that all their beliefs are totally right.
"I refuse you the right to express your opinions because they fall outside what I want to believe" is just plain wrong, on so many levels -- and it is certainly not what the CP voting system is for.
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I do not think a voltare meant tht a software site should publish political messages. In general i agree there ahould be a venue to vent them out. But not at a software site
Nick Polyak
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If you had actually read my message you would have noticed that Voltaire probably never said anything such.
Point is though that free speech is the base of all freedoms.
I'm not going to jump any conclusions though and assume that you were the one that reported the messages.
But if you were, I'd like to ask you if you tried to discuss it with him in before hand or not.
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Nick Polyak wrote: i agree there ahould be a venue to vent them out. But not at a software site
There are two venues on this site: The Lounge (here) for general discussions, and The Soapbox for politics and religion. If you don't like the discussions or their content you are free to comment, or ignore them.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: on people's freedom of speech
The Lounge has specific rules and his sig was a clear violation of it. I mentioned it to him long ago, although I didn't vote him down for it, but the sig clearly is political and should not be in the lounge.
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Wow.
The old testament and the new testament working together to suppress the opinions of those who follow neither.
Whatever next?
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Are you high? 
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Accusing other members of being drug addicts, and therefore criminals, is something that does qualify as abuse.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Accusing other members of being drug addicts
Asking a question is an accusation? Only to the guilty I say.
Mark_Wallace wrote: and therefore criminals
You also speed, don't you. Admit it. (No, not the drug speed. Drive too fast.) You sick criminal.
Mark_Wallace wrote: is something that does qualify as abuse.
Sensitive when you're high. Geez.
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RyanDev wrote: You sick criminal.
You do not say that as a joke, and you do not say it as my friend, therefore it is more abuse.
Jus' following the rules that you insist must be followed.
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Cute.
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ITYM "petard".
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Serious? You did mark it as abuse? 
That's just pathetic.
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It was a clear infringement of the rules. The statement "no abusive conduct" is present in the boilerplate on every Lounge page.
Your intention was not to be humorous; you did not post it as a joke, so it was abusive conduct. If you are abusive to me again, I will report it as abuse again.
Denying other members the right to hold personal opinions is also abusive conduct.
Putting an opinion in your sig no more breaks the rules than putting your web-site address in your sig. It's a sig; it is not the content of the message, and I have yet to see anyone posting here just to get their sig seen.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Your intention was not to be humorous; you did not post it as a joke, so it was abusive conduct.
You know my intention? Nope, you're wrong.
I responded to your post that there was nothing wrong with the sig by stating that the sig is in violation of the lounge rules (no politics.) Then, ironically, you respond with something about the old and new testament (a violation of rules since you're bringing in religion) which made no sense. It was nonsense. That's why I asked if you were high.
Perhaps since English is not your native language I can see why you got offended but your response made no sense whatsoever.
If I truly offended you and you're not just trolling, then I apologize.
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RyanDev wrote: Perhaps since English is not your native language
As an English (as in "from England") writer, I can confirm that getting the first million words published is indeed the hardest. The several million that followed cost much less pain.
Whether or not you offended anyone is irrelevant. You have stated that the rules have to be followed, so I shall follow them.
Now, when will you start following the rules that you insist on?
If someone does not discuss religion, they are not breaking any rules, and the sig is not where discussions take place.
Abusing the voting system is unacceptable, and will lead to others believing that they have the right to do so, too. Cease and desist.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Whether or not you offended anyone is irrelevant.
Mark_Wallace wrote: If someone does not discuss religion, they are not breaking any rules, and the sig is not where discussions take place.
OK. Please update your sig to post links to porn sites and we'll see if your theory holds true. 
Mark_Wallace wrote: Abusing the voting system is unacceptable
Except for you? 
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Unlike you, I have not abused the voting system.
I have used it to report abusive behaviour, not as a means of disagreeing with other members' opinions.
I was not aware of the connection you imply between your African religion and porn sites -- but I am not interested, and do not wish to discuss it, so don't bother taking it to the soapbox.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: Unlike you, I have not abused the voting system.
When you make a nonsensical post and someone asks if your high, that's not abuse. Plain and simple. So, yes, you marked it as abuse therefore you abused the system.
Mark_Wallace wrote: between your African religion
There you go being abusive again. And more nonsensical stuff. 
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RyanDev wrote: Mark_Wallace wrote: between your African religion
There you go being abusive again.
What is abusive, there?
You are a Christian. Christianity is an African religion.
If it is your opinion that Christianity is not an African religion, I suggest you get an atlas, and look up the places named in your bible, because such an opinion is provably and incontestably wrong.
If you think that it's right to call me abusive for speaking an obvious and incontrovertible truth, then I'd say it's likely that the wrong person was accused of being under the influence of illegal substances.
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OK buddy. 
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Meh.
I've just grown blind to signatures, and carry on happily with my life. This is a coding site, and I'm not going to summarily dismiss someone whose political viewpoints I don't necessarily agree with. Certainly not when it wasn't even the point of the thread he started.
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