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Leng Vang wrote: but that system admin who has complete control and can access everything on the farm, which I'm not ready to trust him.
Point well taken.
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Slacker007 wrote: Cloud is a fancy term for servers/server farms.
Not exactly. Cloud is a fancy term for virtualization. The difference between a cloud and "just a bunch of servers" is similar to the difference between RAID or VFS and "just a bunch of disks". In a "non-cloud" data centre computing services are bound to specific physical hardware--you have a physical box that is a file server, another box that does email, another to run the website and so forth. You could consolidate these all on a single physical box but there would be scalability issues as well as stability, as the various services could interfere with the operations of others--there is a lack of isolation.
"Cloudy" data centres take the concept of RAID or virtual file systems in storage and extend that to the server level. Just like where you have one file system that spans multiple disks and the data could be on any one (or more) of the physical drives, in the cloud you can have a virtual machine or container that handles the delivery of services within its own isolated environment that could be stored or executed in any physical location. The benefits in efficiency and reliability and control over resources can be enormous.
Now that said, I hate the term "Cloud"--it is a buzzword for a modern approach to something that has actually been done since the mainframe days. I also think that the larger "public cloud" services are ruining the internet. Actually all very large services damage the internet. Facebook is ruining the internet by centralizing social media for example. I think there is a problem with companies avoiding responsibility by farming out their IT to Google, Microsoft and so on. Yes, for a small business, farming this out is justified. For a company employing hundreds or more it is irresponsible. Go ahead and leverage virtualization, but don't lock yourself into Google or Microsoft or whatever service and ignore plans to bring it in house, or at least co-locate somewhere within your control. If too many people pass their responsibility to too few of these big public services it is a recipe for disaster.
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Good to know and thanks for the education. I bookmarked this because it is a good explanation.
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Leng Vang wrote: government
They not in that businesses...I know of government projects where no internet and the networking between sites is done over protected, private lines...So no cloud there and there will not be...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Secret Service? NSA? MI6? 
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Well, I'm in the federal government and most of our stuff are on the cloud.
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Like details of cops and so? I doubt that...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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Leng Vang wrote: I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling
my data.
Imagine what could have happened if a goverment had unrestricted access to digital communication and could outlaw encryption, say, in Europe, roughly sixty years ago? Again, it is not about the situation now - we now obviously have trustworthy politicians - it is about what can (and eventually, somewhere, will) happen. And sadly quite often, wartime changes the rules of what is private and what is required to win.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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Yeah, trusty politician. Obama just open a new legislation to allow government access private data, if approved, it makes me cringe even more about cloud computing.
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Leng Vang wrote: Obama just open a new legislation to allow government access private data
A Dutch proverb tells you to trust your host as much as he trusts you.
Cringing is not good enough. Once you realize the danger, you'll loose some sleep.
What companies decide to do is up to them; little is really lost if a company ceases to exist. Decide for yourself if you want to give away information - in the wrong time, your life could depend on a FaceBook post.
Bastard Programmer from Hell
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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It's just another tool in our arsenal. ... and like all "new" technology tools, it becomes the new "new" thing. Market analysts and CIO's drink the Kool Aid and go in to rapture, consultants jump on the gravy train and our worlds become a little more chaotic for a while.
Linux was going to be the end of MS, Netflix was going to be the end of movie theatres, ... way to many examples to list, but you get the drift.
After a while there's a collective shaking of heads, sense is (somewhat) restored and we get on with doing what we do. We might even find the new tool appropriately useful and start using it.
... and, of course, if it isn't new, give it a new, catchy name!
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Here, I corrected your "mistakes" for you:
PhilLenoir wrote: It's just another buzzword in management's arsenal.
Fixed! 
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Streaming services are doing a pretty darn good job of reducing traditional movie theatre traffic.
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No movie theatres have closed in this area!
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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The city where I was born, and the sister city across a river, lost 2 theaters in the last decade. One, part of a larger corporate theater chain, got refurbished.
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Might I suggest a distinction between Cloud Storage and Cloud Computing. Cloud computing is the technology used by SETI and similar organisations in performing analysis of data that would tie up a dozen Cray computers for over a year. Cloud storage is the volume of file servers offered by Google, et al for filing those documents that will be forgotten until the next millennium.
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Think of it as just another back up. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.
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And don't store any of those "private" selfies with your data.
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I guess I'm just the caring, sharing type. 
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No one mentioned the nebulous feeling you get, as if everything is up in the air.
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My biggest concern isn't security - it's the government issuing a national security warrant on your data and you not knowing about it.
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and no one has yet mentioned the rules that where passed in congress in the US and what they allow the FBI to do?
hmmmm
Just have a little bit of a Google, oh and look up the entire story behind why many users didn't get their servers back in the kim.com raid.
It's rather interesting.
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