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Nelek12-Jan-15 14:41
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Jörgen Andersson12-Jan-15 11:50
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Sander Rossel12-Jan-15 12:07
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BillWoodruff12-Jan-15 13:04
professionalBillWoodruff12-Jan-15 13:04 
Hi Jorgen,

I think the demographics of CP have changed a lot since the 8+ years you have been a member, or the 13 years I've been a member here; so, I think it's only natural for what voting "means" for many members ... absent any method of ensuring "voter qualifications" and consistency (gods forbid !) ... to change.

I agree with you that what exists now is less than as meaningful as it could be, and I personally favor mandatory disclosure of author's name on both up- and down- votes ... at least as an experiment to see if article/tip quality improves.

But, vis-a-vis articles and tips, what I see happening is that far too many very low-quality pieces are getting published in the first place.

Over time, I believe, the reputation of CodeProject has changed so it has become a place where it is perceived that anyone (at any level of understanding, accomplishment) can publish an article just to have the fact of that on their resume. And, so, the sheer volume of submitted articles makes it impossible to have really detailed pre-publication screening ... in spite of heroic efforts by CP staff and current members active in article moderation.

Maybe if we had 10,000 members active in article moderation every week that would be different ?

And, that, imho, takes us into the quagmire of "who puts the bell on the cat," or, in fancier terms, "quis custodiet custodes."

I think there might be many of us that feel/think we should do something more on CP to help out with article moderation, but see that as requiring so much time and bandwidth that it would interfere with our own creative work for publication on CP, and with helping-out on QA, not to mention the time and energy available for our personal lives, and other areas of activity.

So, while I am willing to vote on articles/tips, and have my name published with the vote, and, possibly, become the target of some retaliation, I am not willing to spend energy in a back-and-forth dialogue with someone who has submitted a half-baked article explaining to them why its content is hopelessly confused, or inaccurate.

Up-voting by friends and followers: that will never go away; down-voting based on grudges, or biases; that ain't going away.

Should the vote of a member have more, or less, influence/ranking based on their rep or status ? I think so, but, then, you will have the "edge cases" of a very high-rep/status member behaving in a biased or irresponsible way. If you believe in crowd-sourced "wisdom" averaging out for the better, well, maybe that's the thing to trust ... but, then, you gotta have a crowd.

One very different (in my mind) strategy here is to focus on how we "elevate" the best of CP content, including the best QA questions, and answers, so that it "floats above" other content in similar categories.

Right now, I have at least fifty CP articles bookmarked (in Chrome) sorted into various bookmark folders: I often refer to these as the "crown jewels" Smile | :)

Imagine that we could somehow have a "hall of fame" where the most bookmarked articles of one million CP users were ranked by topic ?

Just an idea.

cheers, Bill
«What we observe is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning» Werner Heisenberg 

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