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I see... Cthulhu won this fight 
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No, this is the point we humans are trying to use. Not all of us, but a group of us, that we call terrorists. They use it, not only in Islam, but in other religions. Other name for them is extremists who move all the way to extreme level to spread hatred. Their religion is nothing but just hatred. I am not going to say, having a religion is always to spread hate toward others. No! That is wrong. Just sometimes it happens.
These extremists have no religion, not Islam, not Hinduism, not Christianity. All of these religions teach tolerance and patience. You're atheist, fair enough. You're on the path which you believe to be correct and I have no right to force you to believe in what I think is right.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
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Afzaal Ahmad Zeeshan wrote: You're atheist, fair enough.
Atheism is just another religion, I don't need a label for myself, a club to belong to.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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Quote: Atheism is just another religion
I wouldn't say I don't belong to a club after making such a statement. But as I have already said, it is your choice, your life to live and your belief to enjoy. Club you join, faith you live with is all your own choice. No one on this planet, other than parents (if you think; because I do think my parents have a right over me and what I do) has the right to change your psyche without your own consent.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
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No one has the right to change your psyche without your consent, not even parents.
They are here to teach you yes, but once you are old enough, your psyche is your own and they should accept you, unless you have mental problems and require help in that case, loved ones should prevent anyone from doing anything to harm themselves or others, rather than leaving them alone.
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RUs123 wrote: No one has the right to change your psyche without your consent, not even parents.
Especially not parents.
Parents do more damage to people than anyone else.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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chriselst wrote: Especially not parents.
Parents do more damage to people than anyone else.
Sounds like somebody needs a couch. 
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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Nah, I'm only a little bit screwed up by my parents 
But I know plenty who are seriously screwed up by trying to live up to the expectations of their parents, or having parents who disapprove of who they are, or worse have tried to change or deny who they want to be to suit what they think their parents want.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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chriselst wrote: But I know plenty who are seriously screwed up by trying to live up to the expectations of their parents, or having parents who disapprove of who they are, or worse have tried to change or deny who they want to be to suit what they think their parents want.
I've never understood that parenting style. But this reminds me of just how lucky I am to have my parents.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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That's a tragic start for France...
hope they find them and give them the punishment they deserve!
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I am willing to agree to you right here! I just wish they're captured and are sentenced, in front of public. So that there may not, may never, be any other attack in those areas.
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If you believe in tolerance, then just say loudly "Je suis Charlie!"
veni bibi saltavi
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Oh that's what it is, I was reading it as Jesu is Charlie, and that made no sense at all.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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I had to Google Tanslate that. 
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Multiple thoughts are crowding to be the first expressed.
1. The actions taken are cowardly and deplorable. If you want to attack someone and believe in your cause, why are you hiding your face?
2. Since the office has been attacked before, why didn't they have increased security? They must be aware that because of their choice of subject material, they are likely targets.
3. For those calling for 'tolerance', tolerance at what cost? At some point, we all reach our limit of what we are willing to tolerate. If you seek redress, do so peacefully. If you cannot reach an agreement, agree to disagree.
Anything beyond this is soapbox material.
Tim
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To 2., one of the two policemen that were there to ensure security was shot. The terrorists were carrying very heavy weaponry (they apparently had a rocket launcher !), so security stood no chance.
They forced one of the cartoonist to type in the code to open the door - she had just picked up her daughter at the kindergarten, and they were menacing her, so she had no choice. I think this was deliberate to make sure they could enter. Knowing that 12 people died after that, I am not sure how she will deal with that for the rest of her life... 
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Thanks !
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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It is a massive bloodbath and a attack on freedom of speech and will have consequences. This terror attack shows the attackers and their faith in a bad light. It is like "putting oil in fire" for some german folks known as PEGIDA.
My toughts are by the victims 
Press F1 for help or google it.
Greetings from Germany
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Per my rant (elsewhere): attacks on Freedom of Speech by the Islamic world are apparently quite successful.
Recall the Mohammed cartoon events?
And USA theaters + SONY bending over for it? SONY found a back door but terror won (again).
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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You reap what you sow and I'm not talking about publishing the cartoons which, as someone else has pointed out, should now be the front page of every media outlet.
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None of this matters. It doesn't matter that some Muslims aren't terrorists. The non-Muslim world has generally come to view ALL muslims as terrorists. Right or wrong, that's the way it is.
The only safe play is to assume that's a correct viewpoint, and act/prepare accordingly. If you don't, you're already 75% victim.
Yeah, it's a damn shame to feel this way, but it is what it is.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
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Now that is one dangerous generalization.
John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: If you don't, you're already 75% victim
Do you mean, if you do not assume or if you are not prepared to it?
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Like it or not, the world is a dangerous place. To walk around with your head in the clouds assuming the human race will come to its senses and suddenly start being tolerant and nice, you're gonna wind up dead. I'm not being cynical, I'm being pragmatic. Well, maybe I'm just a little cynical...
I choose not to be a victim. If someone runs at mean shouting allahu akbar, I will not hesitate to introduce them to the virgins they've been promised.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013
modified 7-Jan-15 11:13am.
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My view on this?
If the "rest of the Muslim world" is so OK, then let them clean their house.
Until then, I presume a-nod-and-a-wink.*
* Saudi's and Qatari's still major financiers of the most fanatical.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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