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Thanks, That's first on the list! 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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BTW, this[^] is what my Win8 desktop at work looks like. Notice the retro Start button (courtesy of Start8). 
/ravi
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kmoorevs wrote: When I sent them the 'how to' links, the reply was 'too complicated'
It's only "too complicated" when they compare the procedure with getting you to do it for them.
This is where you start charging money for your time (what a concept)...
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Too bad they can't wait.
Windows 10 marks the return of the Start Menu!
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Steve Wellens wrote: Windows 10 marks the return of the Start Menu!
That will be my next OS, having completely skipped the 8 experience, with the exception of a test rig and my phone. The phone actually just updated to 8.1 a couple of days ago, and so far I like it...my phone now calls me Master! (cortana)...haven't actually thought of a good use for it yet. 
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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I dodged a similar bullet like this: The family all use Apple products. I and my grandson are the only two on Windows machines (because I gave him a laptop.) I meet any request for help with: "Sorry, I know less about your Apple than you do."
My grandson is the only one that I assist (lovingly). 
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I'm glad now these days that being the baby of 5 (which equals good for nothin) that my siblings can't bring themselves to ask little Ronnie (53 now) about this stuff.
My customer base 5 days a week is enough. 
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I had to help my 13 year old nephew setup an iCloud account on his iPad, and my elderly parents do the same on theirs. 
I feel very old all of a sudden saying this (I'm 25) but these kids today, they've completely skipped the PC generation where you had to build your own computer, install your own OS, experiment with different OS' etc and jumped straight to tablets/smartphones where you take it out of the box and it just works.
We've somehow gone backwards!
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"I'm a vet. I'm a pro. Hell, I been here for eight months."
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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I know that all too much. Luckily my brothers, one older and one younger are fairly proficient. I class us as older brother is hardware, I do software/gadgets and younger brother is easier for my parents to get to do things as he still lives with them.
I have long held a policy of family I can't escape helping, if I charge them, I would have retrospective bills for 20 years of childcare/rent etc haha.
I think the worst I had was helping my grandmother's neighbour over the phone with her printer and iPad. Not owning the printer, I was very much going in blind (N)
Friends either owe me money or owe me a pint. I was working in Support for 2 years and could charge £85+VAT p/h for my time, when I point that out to them a £3.20 pint isn't expensive.
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kmoorevs wrote: 'how to' links, the reply was 'too complicated' and 'can't you remote in'?
Spoon boy: Do not try and bend the spoon. That's impossible. Instead... only try to realize the truth.
Neo: What truth?
Spoon boy: There is no spoon.
Neo: There is no spoon?
Spoon boy: Then you'll see, that it is not the spoon that bends, it is only yourself.
Rage against the narrative.
modified 29-Dec-14 12:52pm.
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Use to be you could listen to the Minecraft soundtrack on Youtube while doing your work. It was great work music.
Now, it's mostly remix crap. The bad guys posting a mix of rap and 80's electronica, that is rewiring my brain like a bad Outer Limits episode.
Guess I better buy the real sound track now.... oh my, it worked....
Rage against the narrative.
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hehe, you listen to music while working, childish! 
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Never childish, helps to drown out the sound of idiots near by
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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Always listen to the music that lets you overcome the Idiot inside you.
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Nah that takes more than music to quash that beast
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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One word: Spotify!
Worth every penny (if you pay you don't have to listen to their stupid ads), and they have some great playlists. I particularly enjoy the deep focus stuff.
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The moment you install MineCraft you become a block-head, no matter what you are listening to.
«A man will be imprisoned in a room with a door that's unlocked and opens inwards ... as long as it does not occur to him to pull rather than push» Wittgenstein
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Have been looking at the various snow pictures in the 'papers' and I really must be seeing things......
Picture 18 (of 19)2 at http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/uk-weather-travel-live-updates-4879760[^] says "A lorry has been abandoned on Mapperley Rise Nottingham", I am maybe mistaken, but I'm pretty sure I can see the driver still sat in his drivers seat...
Edit: They have added more picture and the number changed.
modified 30-Dec-14 3:46am.
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That's his ghost.
He has been stranded in the middle of no-where for so long, and in such deep snow that he died of lack of Yorkie Bars after ten or eleven minutes...
That's not heavy snow! That's just a light sprinkling...I've ridden motorcycles in much, much worse than that.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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I know, the media make such a scene out of everything now. I wonder how things would be if we got some of that 'lake effect' 6 foot of snow in 24hours!
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Yeah - OK, when we had a foot of snow back in 2010 life was ... um ... interesting.
But nothing unmanagable, with care.
Admittedly, I was in the Shogun for that lot, and did engage 4WD - but I'm pretty sure I didn't actually need it.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Looking at those pics, that's a flurry here in New England. You guys must be terrible drivers there in the UK.
Marc
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Don't bring the "South of the Border" lot into the same box as the jocks!
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The trouble is that most years there are about two days when it snows, and the snow settles.
So everyone panics and assumes that "pedal to the metal" is the way to get moving, or keep moving once you are sliding. I've seen people getting into real difficulties in 4WD cars on 1" of snow, while I just plodded on past on a Moto Guzzi 1100cc V Twin with more than that built up on my visor!
It's a PITA: because we get so little "real" snow, when it happens the whole infrastructure falls apart. If we got a month's worth every year, people would know what to do. But no ... if they made skidpan training part of the driving test it would help!
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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