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It's also fair to say the authorities, who had a long and detailed relationship with him, had been negotiating for a long time and hoped to conclude it by negotiation.
It hasn't been made public yet why the moved in when they did.
They had been carefully controlling the release of information through the media.
The police had delivered the IS flag to him, because he didn't have one of his own.
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he describes himself as a Shia Muslim who converted to Sunni Islam.
I will say something that:
1) proably shouldn't be said in a public, traceable forum.
2) probably shouldn't be said here
3) and ought to be said by everybody
I am so sick of these religious fanatics. Elephant them all, I say.
Actually, what I wanted to say was a whole heck of a lot more, prejudiced but I held back at the last second.
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: but I held back at the last second.
Probably for the best - that's not a discussion for the lounge.
But I think that is becoming the "normal" opinion, and Muslims appear to do little or nothing to dispel it, even if they personally find it repugnant. 
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If you believe you have no-one to answer to than God (whichever god you choose) then there is no reason for you not to do whatever you imagine your God wants you to do.
That is why the religious are so dangerous, particularly when they imagine a reward in the next life which removes any fear of death.
Personally I'd start to question what God has been smoking when he starts telling me what to eat and how to eat it, how to dress, how to have me hair, how to mutilate my genitals. I guess if you can accept all that nonsense then the really dangerous sh*t gets swallowed up quite easily.
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chriselst wrote: If you believe you have no-one to answer to than God
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chriselst wrote: That is why the religious are so dangerous
Most religious are probably more law abiding citizens than most regular people. Just being clear.
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Most religious are probably just as law abiding as most no religious people.
The most dangerous people are almost always acting on some belief, however distorted from religious teaching, of some higher power.
Tony Blair for example, believed he only had to answer to God and was a proper evil bastard who caused untold damage to the world.
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chriselst wrote: The most dangerous people are almost always acting on some belief, however distorted from religious teaching, of some higher power.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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chriselst wrote: The most dangerous people are almost always acting on some belief
True, but whether that belief is in a god, in their bank balance, or simply in their own megalomaniacal godliness is immaterial.
Whatever it is, they believe that they are somehow better than others, and have the right to exert power over them.
It's worth noting, though, that almost all of the horrific massacres (and an unbelievably high percentage of the most horrific murders) over the last 2000 years have occurred as a result of either:
a: Subservience to one African god or another.
b: The desire to eradicate beliefs in gods.
A quote from E. C. Segar comes to mind.
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Marc Clifton wrote: I am so sick of these religious fanatics.
FTFY.
Unless of course, there are fanatics you are OK with?
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A fanatic is just a person with an obsessive enthusiasm for something, like sport or stamp collecting or playing computer games.
Mostly they're fairly non dangerous.
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chriselst wrote: Mostly they're fairly non dangerous.
Have you ever met a stamp collector in a dark alley? 
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I like the NASA version, better.
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Them little buggers run faster than you'd think!
Seriously though, three films on one day, quite a sit. Great movies nonetheless. Not as good as the original LOTR trilogy, but still pretty awesome.
But what's perhaps my favourite part of any Tolkien movie is the soundtrack. Howards Shore sure did an awesome job on this one
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I have to wait 2 more days because I apparently live in the Shire and Thorin must bring the film to us - he lost his way, twice!
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You better move to Mordor, they always seem to know things first!
You should go there by car or bicycle though, walking is frowned upon in those parts...
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Did Peter Jackson changed the story more?
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I think so, but I can't quite remember from the book... Perhaps because none of it was in the book or because I simply forgot how the book went. Should I be worried? 
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Sander Rossel wrote: Should I be worried?
Probably not. I just got pissed on the second part because of the changes - and not sure I'm ready for more...
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I think it takes longer to watch the the 3 movies than to read the book.
So there are some changes and additions to the story.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I do understand that it is a bit hard to do 3 movies out of that thin book  .
However the world of Tolkien is full of additions to the story and no need of Peter Jackson to made up things. specially where those are not additions, but contradictions to the original story...
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The first movie was ok, but I was already extremely disappointed by the second one.
The second movie was a 3 hour non-stop action movie. There is nothing left of the spirit of the book.
You'd think when they had problems putting the 6 books of lotr in 3 movies they had problem, then why the hell did they feel the need to speed up the story of a single book spread out over 3 movies? They left so much of the story out and invented new things just for the sake of the story. Also I didn't really like the approach of uhm... taking the view of Bilbo as the perspective of the movie itself.
If you don't understand what I mean: I felt like the movie bases on the story of Bilbo telling the story afterwards and picture that movie taking his expressions literally (example: the mountains during the storm that suddenly were moving giants, that really confused me at first and I only later remembered the book describing this event in such a way)
I've watched the LOTR series several times already. I can't really say I'm planning to the same with the Hobbit)
Yet, the soundtrack never disappointed and Howard Shore is a master of his craft
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I felt the same way on the movies. Still pretty awesome, but part two was, indeed, non-stop action.
I liked the Gimli vs. Legolas jokes in LOTR, but with these movies they take it a bit too far.
Sometimes I feel as if I'm watching Pirates of the Caribbean, which has that same funny/ridiculous smooth flow.
That's why I still prefer LOTR above The Hobbit.
I didn't mind seeing the story through Bilbo's eyes though. Isn't that how it is in the book as well?
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Well, I only read The Hobbit twice (once a long time ago in German, and once in English). So I don't really remember how the story was told. But yeah, I think it was from Bilbo's eyes. But it's one thing having a narration and a whole other thing showing those things in a movie. I didn't feel that I was listening to Bilbo telling his story. I felt like I should be in the story as it actually did unfold, but as this wasn't the case I never got hooked...
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I must admit I was a fan of the Lord of The Rings movies Peter Jackson did good things with them. I must admit I am a little afraid the Hobbit (a book Tolkien wrote for his Kids) and thin! while the Return of The King you could hold a desk level with The Hobbit I read in one sitting, I liked it but it was short how could you pad that to be three films... I suppose I really should watch them for research sake...
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