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The poll says "Scrum stand-up style", not "Scrum stand-up".
In any case, I agree that this style of meeting isn't appropriate for discussions, as standups are intentionally brief.
/ravi
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: That's not what the Scrum stand-up is for, ...
True, but it is a meeting that is on your schedule, you know what to expect from it, by definition it is a short meeting, you interact briefly with several people on just your project, the results can be informative, it is (hopefully) not disruptive to your plan for the remainder of the day, and you can get the hell out and back to what you wanted to work on.
That sounds like a perfect meeting to me.
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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H.Brydon wrote: That sounds like a perfect meeting to me.
Pretty good, but usually no food, not enough chicks.
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But it's not a meeting to "discuss" tasks.
In-fact, there should be little to no discussion in a daily stand-up meeting.
Everyone should stick to say what they've done, what they're going to do and if they have any impediments, period.
Any technical discussions should be taken offline only with the relevant parties.
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So at a Scrum stand up you don't discuss the tasks? At all?
cheers
Chris Maunder
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and most are highly unproductive, even the quick 15 minute stand ups I have to do.
If you have to have a meeting, then they should be 20 minutes max and should be very specific in topic and attendees.
If you have a bunch of boring sh*t to say, then do it in an email, so I can at least delete it without reading it.
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They're not scheduled in anyone's calendar. It's fine if I'm the one doing the wandering, but when someone else wonders-over-to-my-desk for a chat that I know's going to last 15 minutes or more (or even just two minutes), then I am wretched away from the work I'm trying to do, and it takes me forever to get back into the groove after the person's left... assuming that this "chat" hasn't resulted in my priorities changing and me being pulled off the task I was in the middle of.
Exactly the same reasoning applies to IM and Chat meetings - I hate it when people Skype me while I'm busy.
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I agree with this. For me though, I don't have an option. Most people don't quite understand we have to actually think to do our job, and it's casual or bust. Or when we do set a time, nobody shows up for it. So... casual is better than nothing. But I do agree with your point.
Jeremy Falcon
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As a developer I also hate the interruption that Skype/Lync generates. Calling people see you at your desk and assume you are available to answer. Wander over to the desk is just as bad as they "hover" assuming that within a minute you will be free.
My ideal meeting is book me for tomorrow, and make sure you have a large whiteboard
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Graham Downs wrote: assuming that this "chat" hasn't resulted in my priorities changing and me being pulled off the task I was in the middle of.
Which, by definition, means that you're working on something of higher priority making the interaction a good thing.
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That all depends on who decided that what I WAS working on is suddenly not so important any more, and what their motivations are.
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Crassly, that really depends even more upon who euphemistically signs your pay check.
Sure we know what's best - but it's part of the price to be paid if one wishes to be paid.
Next time, I plan to be born rich. This should eliminate a number of these problems.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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... or into a world where money is not necessary, and we always only ever do what we choose to do, when we choose to do it.
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We all prefer no-meetings!
But according to the nature of the subject at hand there are types that fit better than others...
Skipper: We'll fix it.
Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this?
Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.
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A mix of some options.
CuasualCasual meeting at one desk to fast speak about something.
Focused meeting with an agenda when developing concept or dealing with big themas.
Phone / Video chat meetings when speaking with someone far or customer to clear some questions or not so big points.
M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
modified 8-Dec-14 14:36pm.
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That's a meat thing, not a meeting!
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Yes, I prefer
Option 1: If its a daily status meeting.
Option 2: If I need a quick input from my colleague.
Option 3: If its a brain storming or discussion on approach/troubleshooting/next steps plan.
Option 4: With my clients or non-technical boss Never mind. :P
Option 5: With distant, known people for detailed scheduled meeting
Option 6: With distant unknown people.
Option 7: For not so important stuffs where i can do multi-tasking.
So, If scenario would be given, it was easy to choose.
Life is a computer program and everyone is the programmer of his own life.
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Anurag Gandhi wrote: where i can do multi-tasking
I envy that ability.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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