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just sayin'
Cheers,
Peter
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Please... nearly every day some clown here in the lounge takes an Apple shot. Sometimes it turns into an epidemic. 
If you can't take it - stop dishing it out.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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We might as well sell these devices with all the requisite software.
Waiting until the user gets home to download it all just wastes bandwidth for the rest of us.
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Quote: All of the dozen different "doorbuster" Android tablets Bluebox examined were found to include unpatched Android vulnerabilities including Masterkey, FakeID, Heartbleed and Futex, while more than a quarter were sold with security misconfigurations or active backdoors installed.
Bluebox discovered Android's Masterkey "zombie botnet" vulnerability last year and detailed FakeID super malware earlier this summer.
While Google has released patches for both flaws—in addition to Android's Heartbleed and Futex bugs—the fact is that major retailers are actively promoting new Android products that still harbor these unpatched vulnerabilities.
The problem is more with android itself than with google or the retailers. For some reason it is quite difficult to keep your device "patched" and "updated" unless you buy the newest shiny every few months. How many of old devices have any patches yet? As to get any update you usually have to wait for vendor AND your carrier provider to release the update. And this often stops at most few months after release...
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"My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."
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It's funny how apple devices that have sat on the shelf for a couple of months also have un-patched vulnerabilities, isn't it?
Unlike these guys, who obviously went looking for trouble, the average person who got a hold of one of the tablets would allow it to accept security updates before screaming that it hadn't had any security updates since it was put in the box.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Mark_Wallace wrote: It's funny how apple devices that have sat on the shelf for a couple of months also have un-patched vulnerabilities, isn't it?
Apple devices don't tend to sit on shelves for months. 
Mark_Wallace wrote: Unlike these guys, who obviously went looking for trouble, the average person who got a hold of one of the tablets would allow it to accept security updates before screaming that it hadn't had any security updates since it was put in the box.
One big problem with many of these "cheap" Android tablets is they can't be updated. People who buy them are dependent on the manufacturer for updates who don't provide them. Hell, when it comes to Android phones it's even worse. Even the higher end manufactures and carriers don't go back very far providing updates. Hate Apple all you want but they do a better job of supporting their older devices than the manufacturers that use Android.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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Mike Mullikin wrote: One big problem with many of these "cheap" Android tablets is they can't be updated.
It's pretty clear that you have no idea what you're talking about.
Android has updates, period.
You might want to believe otherwise, to stroke your I-spent-far-too-much-for-an-inferior-device ego, but it's Android. It updates.
The only difference is that if your beloved ios goes through a major version change, it's forced on you, so you end up with cr@p icons that look like Windows 8 baby blocks and having to pretend that it makes you feel seasick, whereas Android retains the same version (if you get a phone with Android Banana Sundae, it stays as Android Banana Sundae, but gets security updates and improvements) unless you personally decide to install a new version.
Elitist and misinformed cr@p is not useful to the world. Paying over he odds for inferior goods doesn't makes one superior; it makes one a sucker.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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You really shouldn't post when you're drunk. You come off as more foolish and idiotic than usual.
Nearly everything you wrote is completely ridiculous. Any honest person who knows anything about Android or iOS and the devices that run them knows better.
Many older versions of Android are not updated remaining very insecure.
Many Android devices cannot be updated beyond their current version.
iOS is not forced on anyone.
There's nothing elitist about owning Apple products. It's simply a choice. No different than choosing any product.
I don't intend to continue to "discuss" this with someone so utterly clueless. Good luck.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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As a side note:
You obviously have not been informed that I don't drink, or that my wife and child were killed by a drunken driver.
Keep your feeble, innefectual attempts at being insulting to yourself.
Back on topic:
Keep reading the fanbois press, and good luck in trying to refuse the next dozen ios major updates (unless you're using an earlier apple device, which "cannot be updated beyond their current version").
Mike Mullikin wrote: Any honest person who knows anything about Android or iOS and the devices that run them knows better.
I have an ipad an android tab, and an android phone.
The ipad is a joke, compared to the android tab. Seriously a joke. It's almost comparable to vtech, except that you can see that all it cares about is your personal information and money being driven to its wonderful real owners (not that google's any better in their desire for your personal information, but they're easier to ignore, because you're not constrained to using any of their services).
Come back after you've owned and used an android device for a couple of years -- or at least after you've learned how updates really work.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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If you don't know Jira, you get e-mail notifications to tell you if someone has updated a comment or edited a comment. I just got an e-mail showing me that somebody had 'corrected' the following word in one of my comments.
got gotten
(They could have at least made it bold and tripled the font size)
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Now it's your turn to correct it:
got gotten Götterdämmerung
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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"Jira:" your paying some peasant from Harbin living in a giant dormitory in Guangzhou, working fourteen-hour shifts six days a week on a Console-only application, and half-days Sundays, lucky to get a Happy Meal once-a-month, peanuts per month to scan CodeProject and send you e-mails ?
Well, what would you expect for those wages ?
«If you search in Google for 'no-one ever got fired for buying IBM:' the top-hit is the Wikipedia article on 'Fear, uncertainty and doubt'» What does that tell you about sanity in these times?
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One thing - why do you let anyone correct what you've just said?
 I know, I am going to right a wrong sentence, but why should I let you update it? Hmmmm?
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Because Jira is a collaborative tool so anyone with the appropriate permissions could do it. Oh, and while you are wondering about why you should let us update it - I could quite easily edit your message here because I have the appropriate permissions.
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I know Jira and well that is a software, mistakes are evident due to logic. That was the behaviour it had to adopt, since you opt in to recieve updates you will get updates no need to complain.
Yep! I was going to write, update it - if you're not having permissions. 
The sh*t I complain about
It's like there ain't a cloud in the sky and it's raining out - Eminem
~! Firewall !~
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Grammar Nazis strike again!
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P0mpey3 wrote: (They could have at least made it bold and tripled the font size.)
FTFY
Jeremy Falcon
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...that smoke detectors only start chirping in the middle of the night when the battery starts to die. It NEVER happens in the daytime. Gotta be somebody's sick joke. 
-NP
Never underestimate the creativity of the end-user.
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Have you ever noticed how you can't cover both ears and test the buggers? 
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Yes.. Or I can get the missus to cook a pork joint that always sets them off 
Every day, thousands of innocent plants are killed by vegetarians.
Help end the violence EAT BACON
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Yes you can.
For example, put your left(/right) arm up in the air and cover your left(/right) ear with your upper arm, bend elbow over top of head, bend wrist down and stick finger in ear. voila. If necessary squeeze arm against ear for extra silencing effect.
Other arm is now free to use as you please. 
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Just wait until they get so old you need to replace the whole thing. They will start to trigger for no apparent reason and it will happen in the middle of the night. Been there, done that. 
When mine hit that age about a year ago, they triggered when I was fast asleep. I jumped out of bed and checked the whole house for smoke, but there was nothing. I then had to find the stepladder and try to find out which of the five units was causing it. Oh, yeah, the joy of connected smoke detectors. 
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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Just some input:
Most people are not home during most of the day. Given that, the chances are that if you're home and the battery's gonna' go while you're present (vs. whist away from home) it'll most likely go off at night.
You can avoid the annoying chirping once-and-for-all by removing the batteries.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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W∴ Balboos wrote: once-and-for-all by removing the batteries
This happens to dramatically impact the life-saving function of these thingies.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Rage wrote: This happens to dramatically impact the life-saving function of these thingies.
Which further reduces the chances of being awakened by the detector (ever).
I don't see a problem.
| "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein | | "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert | | "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010 |
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