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Sounds like you could use some hints from Simon Travaglia: clickety[^]
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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I'm like that with peanuts.
Hold on... Don't read that the wrong way...
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I wouldn't waste time or breath saying "with all due respect..."
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Oh you have to say that bit.
Then you can follow with almost anything and it isn't an insult. 
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OriginalGriff wrote: and it isn't an insult
Really? In my world you can add anything you want to "go elephant yourself" and it still just says "go elephant yourself". 
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Yes - but these are management dweebs and their brains are programmed by buzzwords and aphorisms.
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yeah, it's amazing what you can get away with letting slip out of your mouth if it's properly couched in that kind of nonsense.
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mikepwilson wrote: it's amazing what you can get away with letting slip out of your mouth if it's properly couched in that kind of nonsense
Usually, stuff that's couched in that kind of nonsense doesn't let anything slip, though, because there is zero other content.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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With all due respect, your non-positive work flow does not fit within our core competencies and will require a paradigm shift outside the "box". This will require meetings, pre-meetings and even pre-pre-meetings.
Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. ~ George Washington
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That gets my buy in.
We'll have to touch base and assemble a tiger team with the right core competencies to move the ball forward.
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Oh sh*t, my nightmare has come to CP!
I have one of them in the office, he no longer talks at me and will leave a meeting if I am part of it, self defence.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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It's good that you've on-boarded as a proactive change agent.
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"If I were ten years younger I'd take a flamethrower to this place!"
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The Money Pit!
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If you know that it's the kind of meeting where you could lose your cool, you have to stop treating it like it's something important to you, and instead treat it as a game.
During the meeting, instead of thinking things that might make things not go well -- in fact, instead of bothering with any emotions at all -- look at each person in the room as if they are part of a role-play game that you're playing, and analyse what they say and how they behave to work out their objectives.
Managers et al might be trained to be sneaky, manipulative ****ers, but they're rarely as smart as they make themselves out to be, so any hidden or longer-term agenda can usually be quite easily spotted.
And devs win hands down at role-play games, logical analysis, and creative execution, so move it into your field of expertise. Analyse what is being said to spot manipulation and babysit, and think of a small list of statements/replies before choosing one to say, just like in a game.
It's a puzzle, a detective game. Look for clues, and figure out what you need to figure out, and try to only speak if it's to find out more information -- i.e. answer questions with questions, but avoid "why" questions; go for questions that all "players" will have to think about (e.g. a thoughtful "How will that affect ~~?", rather than challenging with "Why should we do that?", which the "character" will be ready for).
And remember that you don't have to win, so don't even try -- you only have to get through to the end of the "level".
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Mark_Wallace wrote: they are part of a role-play game
Bring dice.
[chriselst rolls a 6 and vanquishes foe]
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And take a walk around the building, first, to level up your sword.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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First 90%: pretty good.
Last 10%: dumb.
It failed the 2001 test.
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That a good ratio.
I'd rather be phishing!
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It's a good ration if the first 10% is bad, and the remainder is good.
But the final 10% rubbish leaves you with a bad impression of the whole film.
A bit like drinking the whole beer...and then finding the dog mess at the bottom of the glass.
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OriginalGriff wrote: ...and then finding the dog mess at the bottom of the glass.
Did that happen to you again? 
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OriginalGriff wrote: A bit like drinking the whole beer...and then finding the dog mess at the bottom of the glass.
Where exactly do you drink?
I'm retired. There's a nap for that...
- Harvey
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Pretty much, I don't any more.
Surprisingly, that's not the reason... 
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Remind not to go drinking with you!
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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