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I'd say that "Red Bull gives you wings!" is fine, as advertising, because it doesn't try to lie to people; it just makes a silly statement. There's nothing malicious in it; it's just a bit of fun -- it's recognised that there may be a grain of truth in it, but it's rightly taken with a pinch of salt.
But their claims that it improves your "performance", etc, are utter BS, and are maliciously targeting people who will not know any better.
That's where the difference lies -- if some evil-minded, greedy b*st*rd makes false claims with the intent of defrauding (who he thinks of as) suckers out of their money, his arse should be kicked all the way from here to Wormwood Scrubs.
Fraud is a crime. Last I heard, we were working toward having a society where people could not keep the proceeds of their crimes.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: people who will not know any better.
I guess.
Mark_Wallace wrote: Fraud is a crime. Last I heard, we were working toward having a society where people could not keep the proceeds of their crimes.
I agree. If we are going to target Red Bull for fraud, then let us be fair, and target all companies for fraud.
BTW, I don't consider Red Bull to be evil. Greedy, most likely, but not evil. Forgetting to put bacon on my burger, is evil. 
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Slacker007 wrote: let us be fair, and target all companies for fraud
Absolutely. That's how it should be. Let's hope we get there (and never stop trying to).
Slacker007 wrote: I don't consider Red Bull to be evil. Greedy, most likely
Hmmm.
I'll have to challenge you to name a (genuine) religion or credo where greed is not a sin (note: Thatcherism is not a genuine religion, despite how it's adored by fanatical followers).
Slacker007 wrote: Forgetting to put bacon on my burger, is evil
Come to the Netherlands.
You'll never truly understand how evil food can be until you come here*.
* Dutch delicacies:
-- Flavorless mayo made from powder and water is served with chips (AKA French fries).
-- There is only one Dutch cheese, which is made of rubber, and is marketed under lots of different names.
-- Their biggest contribution to the culinary arts is mashing other vegetables into mashed potatoes -- but not even frying them, afterward.
-- There. Is. No. Bacon. In. The. Netherlands. There's stuff that looks like it, and maybe even smells like it, but it's pumped full of cr@p, and in no way resembles bacon when eaten.
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Mark_Wallace wrote: I'll have to challenge you to name a (genuine) religion or credo where greed is not a sin
Just because someone commits sin, does not make them evil. Semantics, I guess.
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But if they do it every day, and get paid for it...
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Mark_Wallace wrote: But if they do it every day,
I think what makes someone or something evil is the act of pure enjoyment of the sin they commit.
To be honest, I haven't allowed myself to get to far in the philosophical weeds on the idea of "evil".
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I think it is malicious . It shows a cartoon of a no hoper excelling after drinking red bull , they achieve the impossible . No one thinks it does make you fly BUT they have imprinted the idea that Red Bull allows you to achieve the impossible by giving a bald lie . It is calculated and misleading , millions have (literally) swallowed it . Its the idea behind the lie that is what they want us to consume somewhere deep down in our psyche . When we are down and vulnerable there is always the Red Bull snake oil . They get the message into our brians through the lie 'Red Bull gives you wings' . It should not be tolerated .
modified 9-Oct-14 7:31am.
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The judge/jury probably agreed with you -- and I don't exactly disagree, but if that were the only claim they made, I'd be willing to give artistic license the benefit of the doubt (it does contain caffeine, so it can "pick you up" as much as coffee does).
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My dad worked in the movies as a rigger. Once or twice he did the odd ad and on one of these occasions told me about a superglue ad where they had to use contact adhesive to get the "demonstrated" strength of the superglue.
Once I had a TV ad generated for my booze business and they added dish soap to the beer to keep the foam intact under the studio lights.
Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.
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Slacker007 wrote: people who sue McDonald's because the coffee was hot
That is a big shortcut. Here is[^] what happened.
~RaGE();
I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus
Entropy isn't what it used to.
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Wow! You've actually found a Daily Fail story which isn't full of lies. 
The way the media - and the public - responded to that case was appalling.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pCkL9UlmCOE[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Hmm.
There's a lot of emotive verbiage on both sides of the case, but the idea that a company that makes a product is responsible if you misuse it or have an accident whilst using it is still a bad one.
Imagine if that were applied to other products:
-- Ford made the car which was capable of going up to speeds which could cause serious injury if hitting a concrete wall head on.
-- Apple made a computer that can cause significant injury if someone is hit over the head with it.
The "Oh, that poor old lady!" argument is not a good one for setting precedents, especially for a precedent that effectively makes the owner of every espresso machine (whether in a business or at home) liable for accidents that people have when drinking their coffee (espresso machines brew at 190-196F, and make far better coffee than the colder drip-through filter machines/cafetieres, etc).
So don't expect the good coffee, if you come to my house; you can watch me drinking it, while you sup the watery cr@p.
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Any Twin Peaks fans still waiting for answers 25 years after the show finished?
Not for much longer[^], apparently. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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And here I thought you were talking about Twin Peaks[^] sports bars.
For those that don't know, it's like Hooters.
Jeremy Falcon
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Quote:
colloquially referred to as breastaurants
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Or the Twin Pines Mall that was renamed to Lone Pine Mall by a time traveller.
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a f***ing golf cart.
"I don't know, extraterrestrial?"
"You mean like from space?"
"No, from Canada."
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WHOHOA! How on for a second while I book my ticket to Lewisville, Texas! 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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They're not just in Texas man. I know we have some in Louisiana as well because I've been there. Picked up a waitress's phone number once while stuffing my face.
She turned out to be crazy though.
Jeremy Falcon
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"Hooters then filed suit against Twin Peaks and alleged the former Hooters executives had stolen Hooters trade secrets and management documents as part of their move to Twin Peaks"
What, they had a piece of headed paper with "Get hotties to flash the flesh" written on it?
I can't see that there's anything else they could have "stolen" that wouldn't be applicable to several million non-boobie-flashing establishments, so what could the great "secrets" be?
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Mark_Wallace wrote: what could the great "secrets" be?
Sorry man, I can't tell you. It's a secret.
Jeremy Falcon
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That is great news ! I wonder if that sonic wizard Angelo Badalamenti (now 77 years old) will do the music. He did the score for the Russian film, Stalingrad, in 2013.
« There is only one difference between a madman and me. The madman thinks he is sane. I know I am mad. » Salvador Dali
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Wow, Yet another show from the past brought back (Dad's Army thread)!
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I wonder if you can expect answers from anything Lynch creates, he even said so himself in an interview I can't be arsed to look up(I think the interview was with regards to Mullholland Drive).
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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After the movie "Twin Peaks:Fire Walk With Me" a friends wife commented "Screwed again".
Answers may be given but more questions will be posed.
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How are all those people going to get up and down those hills in their wheelchairs?
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