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newton.saber wrote: Would it then authenticate you?
I don't think so: as far as I know it isn't a "password" so much as an encryption key, so a blank at the "sending" end should mean a decryption failure at the "receiving" end and a lack of communications (otherwise the actual wifi data would be public and naughty people would have wifi readers on their tablets (like they used to have for analog phones in the Dark Ages)
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I don't know much about WLAN connections, but maybe Windows 8 also saves and checks the MAC of the router to match?
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When the laptop did not connect, did you try rebooting it in between the switch of the APs, or even turning off the network adapter an turning it back on?
It seems to me that would be a security feature of the devices that require you to force the reconnect even though the credentials matched to protect against devices masquerading as the same "safe" AP.
If you did try that, I sympathize with your frustration.
Actually, I sympathize either way.
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You and a whole lot of others.
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Yes, there are plenty of reasons to dislike it...agreed. Not connecting to a 'masquerading' router seems like a good idea to me, but I do agree that the OS could have been more forthcoming about the connection failure.
On a positive note, I installed a wireless printer/scanner for the wife a couple of weeks ago. Her Win8 system found the printer on the network and could print within seconds. Her Win7 work laptop required much more work to get it working, including installing drivers and software.
"Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse
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Is it possible that it was looking for the "MAC" address too ?
And the others were not?
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Meh.
If a new network device suddenly pops up and is set up to pretend to be an existing router, I'd be okay with being forced by my OS to re-enter the password instead of assuming this is not a rogue device and connecting to it automatically.
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And so would I. But just disabling the WiFi without telling you, or giving you any reason, or clue that it's done it, or idea how to undo it...
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Weird; for me a dialog box just popped up when my daughter clicked on my WiFi for the first time, I read off the password to her and that was that.
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I have registered on CodeProject and StackOverflow.
These two sites have taken care of all my questions for, duh, a year ? Two years ? Three ? Whatever, neat places.
I am watching StackOverFlow exhibit some behaviors which I hope are temporary, and which I don't understand.
Let me emphasize my heartfelt desire for these behaviors to be temporary. I really like that site and I really want to keep participating, both as one who helps others, and as one who gets answers when I'm stuck.
(I really can't say which role I like better)
For the moment, the behaviors I'm observing are a stark warning to me that the game there has radically changed, and what was in the past, is not going to be happening in the future.
Hence, I need to look for another place to ask (and answer) questions.
If you are a registered member of another answer site such as StackOverFlow, and you've had positive experiences either asking or answering questions, I would appreciate your feedback.
Hopefully, this entire post will be needless.
For the moment, I really feel like I need to find at least one other place to make friends and start helping others in anticipation of the (very soon to come) day when I will start having more questions again.
So, where do you go (outside of CodeProject, which is clearly the ultimate, best, and finest place on the internet) to get your technical questions answered ?
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I go to myself.
No, really. I write the question down, and then .. usually it's already solved by that time. Or if it isn't, it may take some more time. Failure is also a possibility.
But it's never worth asking some anonymous narcissistic a**hole on the internet to solve it for you. It's better to fail than to feed their overinflated egos.
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Just curious, what is your opinion of the Quick Answers section here on CodeProject ?
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Well it's not as bad as SO.
You can have bad luck and run into SAK though.
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Never use the name: like Voldemort, he will appear! 
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Fear of a name only increases fear of the thing itself.
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I'm not afraid of the name, or the person - I just like that there is a small corner of the site where I don't run into his arrogant pontification. 
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Kenneth Haugland wrote: Since you answered a question, this could be the beginning of a beautiful tautology
I.. but.. oh 
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Ah, Harold, esteemed mentor, if only I could go to you with all my technical questions !
« I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant
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Bill, esteemed student, I seem to have woken up in an alternate reality today. Me a mentor?
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Accidentally,
while trying to write a post,
I wrote a haiku.
(not the post above this one, obviously, not that there should be any confusion..)
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One haiku deserves
another, especially
one a mentor wrote !
« I had therefore to remove knowledge, in order to make room for belief » Immanuel Kant
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I haven't been to SO in ages - years and years - because I just didn't like the attitude there.
What's changed?
C-P-User-3 wrote: So, where do you go ... to get your technical questions answered ?
Google, mostly... 
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OriginalGriff wrote: What's changed?
The invasion of the Mongolian Stompers, that's what.
Vanity of vanities, all is vanity, and there is nothing new under the sun.
Sure, every question that can be asked, already has been asked. You can find the answer to any question if you read enough. That's the catch, "enough" ! The old guard (generally, guys with a few thousand points) are closing questions whenever there is the slightest tangential reference to a question buried deeply within a prior existing question.
Case in point: I asked a question in a group here on CodeProject. The next day I had my answer. I believe the sentence was sixteen words long.
The reason I came here was because the Mongolian Stompers closed my question with the accusation that it had already been asked and answered.
Just for the sake of argument, I will go along with the false accusation (i.e., no, it was not answered in another question, but I'll pretend here, just to demonstrate their mental condition). In order to wrangle the answer from the (putatively, and wrongly so) previous question and answer discussion which they (falsely) claimed covered my quandary, I'll estimate that I would need to spend five to eight hours reading over it; with a majority of that time spent in navigating the obfuscating sections which had nothing to do with my question. After finding the tiny subsection of the conversation which contained the one vaguely tangential sentence which they claimed was the "answer" to my question. After identifying that tangential comment, I would have to interpolate the answer.
If you have to interpolate anything, then the answer is not an answer; it's an encrypted obfuscation.
Those guys must spend their time watching old Columbo reruns. Nobody ever gave him an honest answer either, but, within a few weeks, and after speaking with a dozen or two different people, Columbo arrived at the truth.
The same sort of atmosphere has now developed over at StackOverFlow. This atmosphere was non-existent eighteen months ago. It is now status quo.
I asked the question there, and I got stomped. The purported answer was a secret code.
I asked the question here, and I got sixteen words, which took me sixteen seconds to read; correct that: sixty seconds, because I read it two or three times to get it into the gray matter.
So, in that one case, it was...
- CodeProject, Sixty Seconds and solved,
- StackOverFlow, Eight Hours and counting.
While that one event happened to me, I'm hardly the special case. They're stomping questions from everybody; people who are really confused and can be helped with some simple explanation. I have to wonder if they are really trying to keep everyone else's reputation lower than their own.
Whatever, StackOverFlow, which was once the best place on the internet to get a short workable technical answer, has now become hostile toward those who want to learn.
That's what's changed.
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C-P-User-3 wrote: once the best place on the internet to get a short workable technical answer, has now become hostile toward those who want to learn.
Unfortunately, there is some of that in QA as well - and it seems to be getting worse.
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