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No, there is no reason why they should have that information. I had exactly that issue with an agent a few years back who promised me an interview within two days, and then started insisting they needed all sorts of irrelevant information. The interview (I don't believe there ever was one) disappeared into thin air very quickly. My last email to her told her in no uncertain terms that I did not like being lied to - never heard from them again.
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Hmmm, that what I'm afraid of...I did have the conversation that went "we are sending your details today, but you need to get us the info" it just that it sounds too good a job and the data they want is sufficient for ID theft...
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Richard MacCutchan wrote: I had exactly that issue with an agent ... never heard from them again.
Why do I think you're lying now?
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
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--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: Why do I think you're lying now?
Sorry?
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I used to get asked for ridiculous things and always replied that should an offer be forthcoming that I was willing to accept then I would be happy to supply whatever they need (although I would have stopped short at dental or any type of medical records).
Never give them anything up front and never agree to have your cv/resume sent to an unknown employer - if they can't tell you who it is then it isn't a real job.
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Recruiters tend to be aggressive at getting early commitments (I usually give them outrageous salaries) I suspect the reason for asking for proof you are able to work is the number of candidates they have who are either not legally able to work or, in the US, have a sponsorship that perspective employers may not want to bother with.
However, passport, birth certificate and medical records is absurd. For those, the answer is "go to hell."
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A few years back when AT&T was hiring in the USA, their recruiters insisted that applicants provide a taxpayer ID as part of the application process (eg. before they've even seen your resume). Rumor was they had a list of previously laid-off ex-employees that they did not want hired back.
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No one but the hiring company has any reason or right to ask for that information. If the agent won't back down upon getting your assurance that such documents are available to the hiring authority, refuse to deal with that agent, and make sure his/her boss knows the reason why. You are not being paranoid!
Will Rogers never met me.
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There was a typo- they wanted your Mental health Records...
PooperPig - Coming Soon
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Ah, that makes more sense. (Besides I was trying to make a funny about dental records, seems some did not see it that way though...)
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glennPattonPUB wrote: I was trying to make a funny
You should know better than to try that in the Lounge! Especially if you don't have a coat.
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I generally ask what levels of database and network security they employ, before providing such details.
I recently had a very unpleasant exchange with an insurance company, which refused to pay out because I refused to supply them with private and confidential information which was completely irrelevant to the claim.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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If you are in the UK you can send your question to the Data Protection Authority. They (the UK DPA) will inform you if it is legal to ask for this information and whether they consider that it is needed. As far as I know, in the UK they only need your National Insurance number, name and address. In addition, they will also have had the same question from a few hundred other people and will have an answer ready for you.
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Thanks for that, I had forgotten the DPA...
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All anyone usually needs to steal your ID is your date of birth - the rest they can easily find online. Ironically, the agents clearly want to ID you to make sure you are a legal immigrant or something, in which case a passport plus one other ID and proof of your address (e.g. a utility bill) ought to suffice. I certainly wouldn't send them dental records, as medical information is personal and you have a fundamental right to keep that private, besides it isn't a legal requirement to go to the dentist so why not simply tell them that you have never been?
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Well I agree, I only put the thing about dental records as a funny (don't worry have my coat). It's just that agency's seem to think they have a right to information that I find worrying. I mean do you ask clients for data that you don't need and expect them to pony up said data, I mean this agency wants details that don't need legally before they will submit my application...
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I am a fed. Our motto is paranoia is a survival skill.
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I am pretty sure it wasn't a scam, I sent through an edited version of my birth cert. they seemed happy with it,
I just don't like the way all these 'agency' can ask for details and get snotty if you don't provide them...
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Nice, pointing out where the sinkhole is what really made the photo!
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Now I want to go watch a couple STNG episodes. Wish I was out there.
Marc
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