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Especially when you are a grunt. I suppose if your are uber-senior it might be different.... but these "agreements" are a pile of hooey. Both sides of the contract / agreement have to have money involved. You want a no-compete for 2 years? Guess what sunshine, you agree to pay me 2 years salary.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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In the UK dubious contracts are automatically voided under the Unfair Contract Terms Act.
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Yes, non-compete clauses have to be written very carefully, and quite narrowly, to be enforceable. Courts will generally require that both the time and the extent of the prohibited employment be reasonable. Guidelines I have read suggest that a duration of more than about 6 months is likely to be enforced only in very unusual circumstances. Similarly, prohibiting employment in a substantially identical position for a direct competitor in the same immediate geographical area will probably stand up; prohibiting any employment in the same industry anywhere in the country certainly wouldn't.
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The way terms and conditions are dealt with for software has made them virtually unenforceable, anyway -- the fact that major points are not made clear to buyers before they purchase software invalidates most of the cr@p that idiots add thinking "It's in the ToS, so it's LAW!"
There have been many, many cases where ridiculous terms have been declared unlawful by courts (you're not allowed to jailbreak your iphone, eh?).
The formula is something like this:
OverblownEgo + (LackOfLegalTraining AND/OR CompleteDisdainForCustomers) => PatheticallyUnenforceableTermsAndConditions
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Terms And Conditions - by reading this you are giving us permission to use brain-to-brain linkage to operate your eyes.
Tinfoil hat wearing may void warranty. 
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You should watch the documentary "Terms and conditions may apply" (currently on UK Netflix) - scary stuff...but fun when they doorstep Zuckerberg
C# has already designed away most of the tedium of C++.
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I remember when buying my last house I signed a code, covenants, and restrictions agreement. Among the terms was the committee was responsible for maintaining common areas. After a year of waiting I started working on it. Ten years later the committee removed that covenant without asking me, then they came to me about a covenants restriction I wasn't obeying. I told them I'll continue paying the yearly dues even though our agreement became null and void the second they changed the agreement without getting me to sign the change of terms. They lost the right to tell me anything I have to do because of that agreement and we can let lawyers determine if I'm wrong or not. Never heard back from them about my "violation".
"Your" agreement seems like an agreement to let them build a back-door into your computer and make any change to any software they want without your knowledge or consent.
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What constitutes a valid term depends not only on what you have agreed, but also on the legislation by the parliament and common law principles established by the court. ( Suppose it is within the common law world's jurisprudence ).
I think :
Generally the terms cannot be changed after the contract is formed, once there is change in terms one must communicate to another party. The later must agree in order to form a 'new contract' if the term is 'important'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thornton_v_Shoe_Lane_Parking_Ltd
modified 2-Sep-14 5:49am.
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I agree with you and KP. What struck me was the brazen and obvious nonsense the wording represented. Almost an alien mindset to common sense.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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A father asked his 10-year-old son if he knew about the birds and the bees.
"I don't want to know," said the child bursting into tears. "Promise me you won't tell me."
Confused, the father asked what was wrong.
The boy sobbed, "When I was six, I got the 'There is no Easter Bunny' speech. At seven, I got the 'There is no Tooth Fairy' speech. When I was eight, you hit me with the 'There is no Santa' speech. If you are going to tell me that grown-ups don't really get laid, I'll have nothing to live for."
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This is a tool to help developers to manage their personal information, knowledge, code snippets, mails, schedule, etc. You can use this tool to share your knowledge with your friend who use this same tool.
If anybody is interested this tool please send send a message to me, I will give you download link, also I hope you will tell me your advise to help me make this tool better.
Thanks a lot.
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Write an article about it - that's what we do here at the Code Project! 
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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I have no friends. I only have the vanquished.
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It’s a moo point. It’s like a cow’s opinion; it doesn’t matter. It’s moo. 
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I hate you. I have been waiting for an opportunity to use this  .
Anyway, here is the reference: YouTube: Joey - "It's moo"[^]
Soren Madsen
"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty
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Hehe 
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FunnyVan wrote: a tool to help developers to manage their personal information, knowledge, code snippets, mails, schedule, etc.
I already have such a tool: it's called "a memory"
FunnyVan wrote: use this tool to share your knowledge with your friend
If I did that, what would we talk about afterwards?
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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Q1
Dependence on our research, most tools only have personal information management or knowledge management, just one.
Q2
You can get useful and helpful knowledge or information from your friends.
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FunnyVan wrote: You can get useful and helpful knowledge or information from your friends.
Provided they have useful and helpful knowledge or information.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Q1: That wasn't a question.
Q2: Not if we have already exchanged all our personal information and knowledge.
Addendum 1: You haven't met some of my friends..."useful" and "helpful" are not words I would associate with them.
"Knowledge" isn't one either.
"Or "information", come to think about it.
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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I do believe you google information and get knowledge from internet. You can use this tool to collect knowledge, code snippets, web page or write down your own article. All of them must be helpful or important for you sometimes because you collected them. To share these stuff is better than you google same thing directly.
"friends" does not mean your friends on your contact list. You can use this tool find people and build relationship.
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So what you are suggesting is a tool that assists in plagiarism?
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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this is another topic and conception. I think google has same problem, if you ask me this question
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OriginalGriff wrote: So what you are suggesting is a tool that assists in plagiarism?
Isn't that what CP articles do if you use their ideas and claim original product for "my" work? The colleges are happy to spend money on software that determines a student's "work" is plagiarism, so that seems a prevalent tendency now.
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Quote: I already have such a tool: it's called "a memory"
Maybe you could write an article on this "memory" of yours, sounds interesting
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