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Marc Clifton wrote: My answer is not KSS, but it would certainly be one measure of "visited."
Great minds think alike.
I never consider that I visited a place until I have at least one encounter with a local woman.
But who is keeping score? 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Going by overnight stays I've been to around 40, with another 10-12 just passing through.
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Sander Rossel wrote: what you guys think about it
I figure that I have visited a country if I am there long enough for the local authorities to brand me an "undesirable" and invite me to leave. Or, thrown out of the first bar, whichever comes first.
You can lead a developer to CodeProject, but you can't make them think.
The Theory of Gravity was invented for the sole purpose of distracting you from investigating the scientific fact that the Earth sucks.
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Wes Aday wrote: the local authorities to brand me an "undesirable"
We've had the pleasure of transferring to another plane in the USA (we went from Europe to South America). Even for that brief moment we stayed at the airport the local authorities made us feel so undesirable that our second trip to South America was a (fairly more expensive) direct flight
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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Sander Rossel wrote: local authorities made us feel so undesirable
If it makes you feel any better, they treat US citizens the same way. I find it sort of ironic that mental giants that are not qualified for a McJob are somehow qualified to defend us from terrorists.
You can lead a developer to CodeProject, but you can't make them think.
The Theory of Gravity was invented for the sole purpose of distracting you from investigating the scientific fact that the Earth sucks.
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To make the job as easy as possible for narcissistic undereducated employees in a uniform the work instructions are as follow:
1. Everyone is a terrorist
2. Don't smile to people they are on holiday you'r not.
3. Be as rude as possible.
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I'd say it counts when you go out of the airport and spend at least a few hours in the country. That doesn't mean you don't want to go back there and see some more of it, but if you're into a tick list then it would count.
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Why Google, Amazon etc such companies technical interview questions are like this
1) kth largest element in array
2) Find minimum number of steps to reach the end of array from start (array value shows how much you can move).
3) Median of stream of numbers
4) Question like pancake sorting where you can only swap to sort an array of characters.
This questions are asked for a person with 4 years experience.
Mostly,these are not real world problems in projects. This are only for testing problem solving skills.
Other companies give preference to working experience and project experience etc.
Why Google is different?
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Because Google already know everything about you, and are only going through the motions of an interview so you won't realize...
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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Because Google is different. They're not just gluing "Boring Business Thingamajig 3.1415", "Overhyped Web Fad 2.45" and "Newest non-SOLID Database Nonsense" together with some extra existing components to form some Rube-Goldberg Machine / Frankenstein Monster the way most companies are doing.
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Because companies like Google value the ability to solve problems where some other companies are happy if the bottom feeders working for them are capable of keeping their drool from saturating the keyboards.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: keeping their drool from saturating the keyboards
I'm trying, I really do, but some days it's just really very hard!
Excuse me while I go wash my hands now...
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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pandu web dev wrote: This questions are asked for a person with 4 years experience.
There are quite some people out there that have more than four years experience and still haven't learned to program.
pandu web dev wrote: Mostly,these are not real world problems in projects.
"Real world problems"? Sorry, but IT uses a lot of abstract examples, we cannot provide an "real world example" for each problem.
pandu web dev wrote: Other companies give preference to working experience and project experience
etc.
It does not say they don't - but larger companies get more applications, and it costs time and money to evaluate those. Hence it's a good idea to have some sort of pre-selection. Adding a programming-task so the applicant can "prove" they can actually think is a good idea.
Bastard Programmer from Hell 
If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]
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pandu web dev wrote: Other companies give preference to working experience and project experience etc.
No they don't. Companies I've interviewed for don't even know I've been a Microsoft MVP or a current CP MVP or that I've written 167 articles. They ask me the same stupid questions. Stupider, actually, if you can believe it.
Marc
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pandu web dev wrote: Why Google is different?
Abstract and real life problem solving skills are more important to them, then your ability to perform string manipulation or your ability to solve towers of Hanoi puzzle.
I have read that you can have 7 to 11 interviews before you can get picked for an Engineer position with Google. The first couple of interviews weed out the ones that can't code. The rest of the interviews are about you as a person and your "approach" to solving problems, not necessarily getting the answer correct. Some of their problems have no correct answer.
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Because experience means very little and 'problem solving skills' are extremely important. Some of these questions are a bit too artificial for my liking but the idea of seeing how a candidate can solve a problem in a constrained environment is a good one. My company gives interviewees a fairly simple programming problem to solve, though it's a bit more real world than this as it's for about half a day, and apparently it filters out a lot of people who've made themselves look good on their CV and sound convincing but can't actually solve problems.
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How many of you actually read them? Now, I only took one contract law class in college, but this seems VERY dubious to me:
XI.<deleted> may make changes to these terms at any time without notifying me. As a user, I am solely responsible for reading the most current version of the terms and conditions.
This cannot reasonably be considered a contract.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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Where did you find that?
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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...and then I clicked "I do not agree".
And it's a site I won't go back to.
You looking for sympathy?
You'll find it in the dictionary, between sympathomimetic and sympatric
(Page 1788, if it helps)
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ooo, I've been googled.
I just wonder how many site owners (seriously, Armslist.com owners know web development?) just google for "stupid terms and conditions" and post it.
Charlie Gilley
<italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape...
"Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783
“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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That's a good trick. The ToC equivalent of a blank cheque.
Next month: XII. as a user, I agree to sacrifice my immortal soul to Lord Lucifer.
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harold aptroot wrote: as a user, I agree to sacrifice my immortal soul to Lord Lucifer.
I think we'd all like to help users with that from time to time! 
It's an OO world.
public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
{
public void DoWork()
{
throw new NotSupportedException();
}
}
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harold aptroot wrote: I agree to sacrifice my immortal soul to Lord Lucifer.
Ah, he's a Lord now just like Lord Sugar, eh? That's nice.
How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.
modified 31-Aug-21 21:01pm.
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harold aptroot wrote: as a user, I agree to sacrifice my immortal soul to Lord Lucifer.
I plan to bury...
User will surrender First Born as well as any and all financial accounts including authorization upon demand.
in my EULA.
Psychosis at 10
Film at 11
Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.
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