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There I am on unstable grounds with the raw socket implementation on w2k :P
In general, where there is no listening socket at all, the OS should return RST to you. If there is a listener, he can either accept your connection (ACK) or also refuse it (RST), or just don't respond at all and you will timeouted.
The problem of your plan I can see in a fact, that meanwhile the sniffer will start new process etc, the OS will reply with the RST, because there will be no associated socket with the port specified. But there's a point of my raw winsock ignorance - maybe it is possible to listen with some raw socket on some specific port - this can be a solution for you, I don't know, I worked with TCP/IP either on a lowest level (next to ethernet), or using the std sockets, therefore the lack of knowledge in case of concrete raw socket configuration.
But maybe I don't understand your plan correctly - you want to have some sort of application on a server, which will return SYN,ACK to your SYN request - but this is what the normal socket app. will do for you (as well as the smtp server already did), or where is the difference?
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Thanks, geo_m buddy!
quote:
> or just don't respond at all and you will timeouted.
geo_m, I think if I can implement this and I will work out
my solution. Do you know how to let a client timeout? I think
I can set the timeout value to a large value to serve my purpose.
(Just let the client wait ACK SYN, and I will send back my own ACK SYN
from my another thread.) Is that feasible? Can this be easily done on Windows 2k platform? 
quote:
> But maybe I don't understand your plan correctly - you want to have some >sort of application on a server, which will return SYN,ACK to your SYN ?>request - but this is what the normal socket app. will do for you (as well >as the smtp server already did), or where is the difference?
Yes, you are correct, geo_m. I just want to implement it myself. Just for learning purpose. Because I am interested in TCP three time shake hands communication.
Hope you can give me further help.
regards,
George
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Hi,
I just discussed your problems with my colleague, who did some stuff around raw sockets on windows, and there is one big problem with - they are usable only for cases, when you need just to send some packet (maybe malformed  ), but when you want to establish the full tcp communication, you have a problem, that the ip stack will always intefere your communication - with the RSTs. Problem is, that the IP stack doesn't know nothing about the packet you sent - there is no assigned socket on the client tcp port - so the packet will be delivered to you, but meanwhile the system replies with RST. This is similar to a problem you had with the server port 5678 before.
We looked for some possible solutions -
1st is to find how to switch off this RST feature - it is considered to be security enhancements, when the machine doesn't respond with the RST - so we expect, that there can be some switch in a registry for controlling this behavior.
2nd is little bit more complicated for you, because it involves bit more programming (not too much) and little bit more administration - there are bunch of drivers around on internet, which allows you to somehow directly send and receive ethernet packets. Then you can install them and you will be completelly free to receive and deliver packets in any form . Then you can start even from the lowest level (ARP) and get the best knowledge of tcp - it will be development of complete ip stack. But this is a little bit time consuming to not be paid  . It looks complicated, but there are some shortcuts, which can help you, especially when you are designig that only for edu purposes - like you can ignore packet fragmenting, you can keep only one connection in one time, you can leave the ARP resolving on the normal ip stack on the machine etc.
3rd - learn just by looking what's happening in a network (nearly no programming at all  ) ).
Back to your questions
Large value timeouts are twofold thingie - on one side, you have higher probability of succesfull connection establishment, on other side it always consumes resources, because you must keep some structures in memory etc. for this not-yet-opened connection.
Therefore the timeout value should be always ballanced between these two extremes. Timeouts are the most complicated part of any ip stack in my view - they are everywhere
Everything can be done on W2K platform, it is only matter of time . But with tcp consider the fact, that the full blown ip stack exists on a very small devices (embedded stuff), or even on ooold zx-spectrum with 48kb ram in total exists some working ip stack
Well, lot of letters but not too much help for today - you have to decide which way to go now, and then we can continue.
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Thanks, geo_m buddy!
I think the best way to resolve the trouble is to "start even from the lowest level (ARP)". And then I think I can implement a TCP/IP stack myself.
In my mind, the best way to resolvbe the trouble is to ask experienced person the correct way, like you. And then, work hard myself to resolve the trouble
in detail myself.
But I have no experience before. And I think you are experienced in this field. So, can you tell me where can I find useful materials that I can
make a reference? Better free library and online resource, .
regards,
George
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Thanks geo_m buddy!
Good luck to you!
regards,
George
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I found an example from MSDN on how to use SetHorizontalExtent function to make list box part horizontal scrollable. But it didn't work. Anyone knows how to implement it. Appreciate any response.
itanynj@msn.com
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what's the matter?
I have cracked the difficullty on AutoSizeing the DropDown portion of a ComboBox ,
but failed to display the horizontal scrollbar in the combobox's listbox !!!!!!!!!
I think that's the bug of MS
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I'd like to change some string that user selected by mouse in a web browser.
In other words, user selects some characters at HTML viewer by his left mouse, and activate a popup menu "change" by hist right mouse. At that time I want to change the character's font, color and background color. How can I do it?
I tried it by using CHtmlView class. But, I think there is no method to do it.
Thanks in advance.
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I'd like to make a dialog that has dynamic number of buttons and dynamic number of edit box. Of course I want to control it.
If you know how to do this, please let me know.
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Take a look at www.codeguru.com  there's an article regarding on this in the main page of that web site...
hope this helps...
NOTE:
do what you have to do, but why don't you use a editable listctrl and use comboboxes for the selections?
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I used editable listctrl for some areas.
But, I want to add different types of dialog.
If there is five buttons, "1","+","1","=","2". This means 1+1=2.
User changes forth button "=" to "+" by click the button "=".
So I have to add two buttons, "=","4". As a result, it could be 1+1+2=4.
So I will use dynamic dialog.
Thank you.
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I have an (MFC Dialog) application that builds a rather complex url. I want to hit a "Go" button that opens the browser to a URL defined by the application. I have the code built to build the URL string, but I have no idea how to start IE. I'd rather not use DDE, just a command line should be good enough.
Can you point me in the right direction?
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If you have a full URL, you should just be able to call ShellExecute() and it will launch the default web browser for you.
Dave
http://www.cloudsofheaven.org
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Thanks! It worked perfectly
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How to get the child window handle if you have the process handle to a child process?
thanks
v3man
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I think the processwindow fucntion found here should do the trick
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Hi,
I'm launching a child Windows Media Player process to play an AVI file from within my main application using CreateProcess. Is there a way to get a notification in my main app when the child app has finished playing the AVI file ?
Thanks
v3man
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Consider WaitForSingleObject().
Kuphryn
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There is an application our company has written in C++ that allows for
people to submit bug reports to us. We wanted to give it an upgrade
and have it automaticly e-mail us with the text of the report thats
submitted. We tried to use MAPI to send to our distibution list and
send email from the person but Outlook always comes up with a warning
that "Some program is trying to access your address book do you wish
to allow it" then we get "Someone is trying to send email from you do
you want to allow it" which then the user has to wait for 10 seconds
or so before the user can even say yes. So my question, Is there
anything we can do to stop these messages from coming up or is there a
better way to program it so we don't run into the messages at all?
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Try using SMTP protocol.
Open socket connection to port 25 and then use smtp protocol.
I am sure that you can find smtp utility in codeproject site.
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But be aware of some 'Personal firewalls' which will report your attempt to using SMTP port as well.
But it can be usually configured to be allowed without user interaction, just not to be surprised 
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hi all, im learning controls through MFC from this book . im using windows 98 SE. im trying to make a control in a class derived from CFrameWnd.i get an assert in win32debug. and controls dont show in win32 release. also in win32 debug if i ignore the assert, window is made but no controls. on window 2000 professional though the same programme works.
anyone please help!
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Hi Yaseen,
Can you provide some more assertion details like
where it exactly asserts with class:func info? and for what
operation it asserts?
regards
~Hari~
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