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I don't know about them, but we've used ELO Touch[^] screens for several years now, although we used their enclosed monitors. They're reliable and fairly robust. The software 'just works'.
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We use Beckhoff at work and they buy their displays at elo...
Once I knew that we started buying them and they work wonderfully well. The only problem is getying something open frame that weights less than 1.5kg and yhat can reach 1024x768 resolution. ..
But apart of this they are great.
Thank you for your comment! 
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ELO does have open frame models, but I don't know about the weight or resolution.
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Really heavy... they weight around 3Kg... and 12" displays get only to 800x600... 
A pity, they have such a good product...
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After 2011 Hans doesn't write the new articles and he doesn't have any discussions.
Currently his website is not available.
Several of my attempts to email him have gone unanswered.
Does anyone know what happened?
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Again post this message here in lounge during weekdays.
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What an excellent article! Thanks for linking to it.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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You are most welcome. Here, take an upvote! No need to thank me for that... upvoting is its own reward!
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After seeing Richards response in this thread [^]I am prompted to ask whether rooting a phone is considered hacking.
I am under the impression rooting the phone will give you back the ability to control the apps installed and running on you phone/fondleslab. I find it alarming that when I clear memory it tells me 25 apps have been closed. Not being able to uninstall Youtube and all the Samsung crap on my phone is irritating.
So what else does rooting the dammed thing do (other than potentially turning it into a brick) that may be considered hacking.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Lots of people confuse hacking with criminal behavior when they are two different things. I don't see anything wrong with rooting your own phone. Now if you were trying to root other people's phone so that you could steal from them, that's another matter. 
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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See cyanogenmod, maclaw, and others, this works, my wife received a semi-bricked phone from his youngest brother and after going through maclaw it works like charm.
She has a S3 mini with KIT KAT now...
It's pretty easy to recover a phone after the process, and the explanations in both pages are great...
Of course you decide even if you want to install google applications or not...
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Joan Murt wrote: She has a S3 mini with KIT KAT now...
Got a link for that? Pretty pissed off Samsung decided to stop updating the S3 barely 3 months after I bought it.
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Commonly speaking, hacking is anything that changes the modification of the product from the manufacturers specifications.
So just the act of rooting the phone could be considered hacking and anything extra is just apart of that hacking.
However, do not get drawn up on the term hacking. Hacking is cool because of what you can you with it. Rooting your phone allows you the access to change or add pretty much anything onto your phone's system.
Android is open-source so it already has or can get a lot of software features without rooting the system (which most times voids the warranty). However, if you really wanted to get out of the default manufacturers experience, you can root and this gives you a phone without any manufacturers limitations.
Some things you can do without the limitations are installing mods and/or root apps onto your system. What makes these apps different from your regular apps, that you can get on the marketplace without rooting your phone, is what that apps can do.
My favourites for Samsung phones are SD Booster, Full!screen, Wanam Xposed, Greenify, and for your Samsung crap Root Uninstall.
SD Booster improves the speed of SD cards from increasing the cache memory used in the read/write process. It also can remember the settings of specific SD cards, useful, if you have more than one SD card.
Full!screen gets rid of the bottom control bar. Some people like the bar, I don't.
Wanam Xposed is a speed and system tweaker. It has a lot of features that I found useful like the build-in call recorder.
Greenify (My favourite) is a speed tweaker. It hibernates heavy handed applications that hog your system resources.
Root Uninstall is a (wait for it) uninstalling application. It allows you to clean up the Samsung junk and Youtube if you really want to.
Now those were only a few, there are thousands of applications only meant for rooted phones. Just make sure that the app is safe. From rooting your phone you are making it extremely easy to install a mod and/or app that will fry your system in an instant.
Hope this answers your question,
CodeFate.
PS. Most people root their phone to install paid applications for free. Being a developer making such applications, I don't condone this. While I do understand there will always be some piracy, I do want people to make the right decision. So we developers can still make outstanding applications or improve existing ones.
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CodeFate wrote: Most people root their phone to install paid applications for free
That I did not know - innocent I guess.
Thanks for that information, I would only be interested in speeding up the system and removing the crap wear. I do wonder if there is an opportunity to set up a rooted app market?
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Rooting your phone has a different meaning in Australia
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I'm an optoholic - my glass is always half full of vodka.
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Yes I know, I have trouble with the expression in polite company, not that I spend much time in polite company!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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I often think that iPhone users must be rooting their phones on a regular basis
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I'm an optoholic - my glass is always half full of vodka.
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So my laptop is plugged into the mains charging and I get up to turn the light off with my left hand whilst holding the laptop in my right. As I flick the switch I get a shock in my hand touching the light switch followed immediately by another shock in the hand holding the laptop which is attached to the mains.
Do I need to get a sparky in?
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P0mpey3 wrote: Do I need to get a sparky in
Either that or an exorcist!
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Sounds like you have plenty of sparky parts already!
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Something is not properly grounded (I think your side of the pond calls it 'earthed'). IIRC, the UK uses 230 VAC 50 Hz, with both lines as live, and a ground. My first suspect would be your laptop PSU or plug not being grounded, or the outlet it is plugged into not being properly grounded the first is a job for the computer guys, and second is a job for your Sparky.
This is not a good thing, current passes through the path of least resistance and it can be as little as (again IIRC) about 20 ma of current flow to stop the heart which, coincidentally, is about halfway between those outstretched hands.
Ken
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Anybody else enjoying a few beers on this lovely Friday evening?
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Close, I'll be verifying the Vodka protocol (PRF-80) this fine evening.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment
"Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst
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