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I've also had interviews before. What's annoying is that after the interview and they didn't want you to be part of them, they always say, "We'll call you."
Don't mind those people who say you're not HOT. At least you know you're COOL.
I'm not afraid of falling, I'm afraid of the sudden stop at the end of the fall! - Richard Andrew x64
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Agreed, but in these days of everything being done by email, there really is no excuse for not at least acknowledging the receipt of an application, even if they don't bother to tell you that you were unsuccessful.
I applied for a senior position once at a public utility who's motto included the phrase "Investing in people...", and - despite my sending the application by post and by email (and incidentally having to repair their PDF form in order to complete the application in the first place) they didn't even acknowledge receipt with an auto-response, so I had no idea whether it had been received.
The HR person was very annoyed (and rude) when I rang up on the day after the closing date to find out whether or not the application had arrived, saying that they had lots of applicants and didn't have time to respond to every one! At that point I decided I didn't want to work at a public service organisation with that kind of internal culture anyway...
Needless to say, I didn't even get an interview. Now maybe I wasn't a good candidate, but that doesn't excuse rudeness and lack of care.
Mike
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Most companies can commit with a letter/call/e-mail within 24 hours, even if contract paperwork takes longer. Bigger the company, more professional they should be so rudeness really is unacceptable.
My experience has been the longer they take to reply, the less likely you are to get the job. After a week it's pretty much a write-off. If they wanted you they'd come running, it being a developer's job market.
And after a refusal (whether to invite me for interview or after interview), they'll never have a chance to employ me again, no matter what the offer. Hell hath no fury like a female dev scorned 
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Having done tons of interviews.
1) It is too time consuming. We interviewed 10+ people for each position
2) It is an awkward converstation: "Hey John, remember me... Yeah, you didn't get the job"
[I only make that call when it ends with: "You were MY #1 choice, but I got trumped by H.R. and the manager
you will report to. Is it okay if I keep your info, in case something opens up?"]
3) The person getting the offer gets a call.
Finally, a different perspective.
You would not even think about it, if you just landed a new job you enjoyed!
Would you call back all those companies you interviewed with and say "remove me from consideration"?
I wish you the best on your journey.
In the meantime, Write a CodeProject article. Give yourself an edge at the next interview 
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Member 10389821 wrote: Would you call back all those companies you interviewed with and say "remove me from consideration"?
Good point. I think not! 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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Member 10389821 wrote: Would you call back all those companies you interviewed with and say "remove me from consideration"?
If I haven't heard from them, I do.
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In my experience there are companies out there where not calling you back is part of the hiring process. It is not intended to be rude, rather they want to find out a few things about the candidates.
1) Does the candidate really want this job? Do they want to work here, or they just want a paycheck? (this matters to many employers)
2) Is the candidate the sort of individual who will take initiative and follow up on their own?
Many companies want to see these traits in potential hires. I understand that some companies also just want worker bee type developers as well, meaning the above traits would not be valued.
Once I interviewed with a place 4 times, having to follow up with them after a couple weeks each time. They ended up offering me a job, but I took a different job anyway; not because of hard feelings the other place just offered more money.
For the record I did end up having a conversation with the company I turned down letting them know I was not taking their offer.
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Rowdy Raider wrote: 1) Does the candidate really want this job? Do they want to work here, or they just want a paycheck? (this matters to many employers)
2) Is the candidate the sort of individual who will take initiative and follow up on their own?
I have heard that before also. I always call back and if I really want the job call back even after being rejected. Sometimes their first choice turns them down and you show more interest than others. It has worked for me. 
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am.
JimmyRopes
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It is better not to work for companies who can't be bothered to reply - if they don't care about people and common decency then it's probably best to avoid them.
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I always ask about last date of the interview answer. If the answer was not received up-to the date, then the answer is... 
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Hello all,
I've decided to go the IMAP way at our company... (phone change and multiple devices without Exchange)...
Now that we are here, it looks like Outlook 2013 doesn't like IMAP at all... and I'm having lots of problems: non synchronizing folders, Sent items go there only after applying a rule... Today I've received a really old message as unread into the Junk folder. 
In case I'm trying to get something to work which won't (there are several places around that show complaints regarding that)... which would be your recommendation on a mail client? I've tried Mozilla Thunderbird and it just worked... (It is uglier than Outlook and makes less things, but it works...) I'm about to propose every single user in the company to switch to Thunderbird, but before doing that (which will be difficult for everyone)...
Can Outlook 2013 work well with IMAP? should I do something to get it working as expected?
Thank you in advance!
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Does this[^] help?
Or this[^]?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Has anyone at Microsoft heard of testing? Perhaps they all quit with Ballmer.
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They tested and decide to make it the new industry standard 
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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Joe Woodbury wrote: Has anyone at Microsoft heard of testing?
Yes - that's what we pay them to be allowed to do... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Of course they have - the call it RTM though.
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The first one seems that will be possibly helpful...
I'll check it and let's see... Crossing fingers here... 
Thank you for posting that.
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Thank you Richard, at the end the biggest issue was Avira... the antivirus software was trying to check each message transaction and made it impossible for outlook to synch correctly...
Looks like it's time to change the antivirus software at our company...
Anyway apart of that following the small tip/trick I've posted here solves most of the issues...
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There are good reasons to use outlook, mainly calendar, tasks, notes, integration with other products, available add-ins
the main reason not to use outlook is performance. It is slow, especially so when working with IMAP although the performance with exchange isn't blistering
The particular issue you describe could also be down to other devices that are accessing the account. In particular I have seen old messages resurrected when accounts are also used on phones so not sure that the desktop client is always the one to blame
I have seen email servers that attempt to make imap behave more like exchange (older versions of FTGate for one) and experience suggests that it is worth turning these "enhancements" off to see if they improve the situation
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Thank you Mike, at the end the biggest issue was Avira... the antivirus software was trying to check each message transaction and made it impossible for outlook to synch correctly...
Looks like it's time to change the antivirus software at our company...
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Sorry Joan but I can offer nil assistance on this one.
However, with a great little break from it all, you may be able to come up with the answer.
Gran Premi Monster Energy De Catalunya 15th June at the Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya.
Just down the road from where you live. ...and it is pretty well guaranteed that a Spaniard will be Victorious.
This is the one international sport where Spain is so far ahead of the rest of the world.
Go there Murty and you will enjoy it immensely.
Especially since you have driven around the track in a car, so you know the the track.
I will be barracking for one young Spaniard for sure.
"Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980
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Yes, you are right, I truly hope to have it arranged before the 15th, but... (crossing-fingers).
Yay! I hope Marquez will do it!
I'm afraid I won't be able to go... working issues (a little orange robot is giving us some headache and must be finished around those dates).
Yes, I still remember the Lamborghini and the Ferrari... Quite better than the small thing I drive usually...
Most of the motor pilots that are great in Spain are Catalan, we do have plenty of world champions and winners in different motor categories... it looks like we are all ill of gasoline fever... 
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You know that TV program where they get a couple of teams to compete at building things from stuff 'found' on the scrapheap? They also have an expert assigned to each team.
Well, I would love to see Colin Furze[^] be on one of these programs.
Have you seen his latest creations at re-creating the X-Men Characters?
Pyro[^]
Wolverine[^]
Magneto[^]
I love the Pyro one!
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That was a good program - that turned...well...cr@p.
They built some incredible machines: Dick's "Walking Landy" and the episode with the homemade jet engines... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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