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According to this[^], it is up.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
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That is a pretty damning indictment of CodeProject that your find your knowledge route is crippled by the unavailability of SO. What went wrong here?
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Unless you specifically prefix with CP google serves up SO responses well before CP and I guess we all just go for the first response that looks close, this reinforces SOs dominance etc etc etc.
I think it is going to be tough for CP to dent that. I find CP more a community which I don't see on SO.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Quote: I find CP more a community which I don't see on SO.
Yeah, I find SO to be pretty harsh sometimes (then again, I don't spend much time in the QA here  )
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Maybe it is the questions I have, but I rarely see good answers on SO. I have seen many wildly inaccurate answers get high marks from there. I tend to find that I get most of my answers from blogs and articles here on CP.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: I tend to find that I get most of my answers from blogs and articles here on CP.
Indeed, but not the Q&A.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: Maybe it is the questions I have
I think that is most probably the difference, or the type of work, I'm doing donkey work of creating apps rather than pushing the envelope.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: I have seen many wildly inaccurate answers get high marks from there.
Be fair - I've seen the same here too... 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Indeed. This is the problem with any rep based/badge based system, with people running all over each other in the pursuit of a high score - as though it were an ego-fest video game, rather than a means of helping others out.
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No, I'm here to win T-shirts. 
These days people need a reason to do anything, which makes this a bigger version of Big Brother sometimes. You often get shallow questions, and sometimes even more shallow answers. I guess it all comes down to why you want a Q&A/Discussion section on a page, and what means you want to use to get there...
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The only reason that doesn't happen here is because OG has filled the high-score table, and nobody stands a chance of beating him. 
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Thanks for the heads up. I'll start downvoting your answers from now on. 
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: I tend to find that I get most of my answers from blogs and articles here on CP.
This is true. If I'm looking up some language syntax issue, a regex example, or some arcane LINQ or Ruby usage, then SO does well. If want to know how to set up Entity Framework in a multitier environment, then I don't even bother looking at SO, I go immediately for CP.
Marc
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: That is a pretty damning indictment of CodeProject that your find your knowledge route is crippled by the unavailability of SO. What went wrong here?
The two are totally different formats. SO is amazing for code snippets that demonstrate things. I don't have questions I want to ask on SO, I have questions I want the answer to because I know thousands of other people have asked the same thing. So, for example, if I want to find out if there's an extension method that implements a ForEachElse (where the Else part executes if there's nothing to iterate on), I'll more likely find the answer on SO. In fact, CP hardly ever comes up on google for most of the questions I ask.
I don't think it's "what went wrong here", rather, CP just doesn't address the same niche.
Marc
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I use SO for the same reason. I also look at several of the other StackExchange sites, like Server Fault (for server errors and configuration tips), the Electronics one (I like electronics) and so on.
What do you get when you cross a joke with a rhetorical question?
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Marc Clifton wrote: SO is amazing for code snippets that demonstrate things ... I have homework questions I want the answer to because I know thousands of other people have asked had the same thing homework assignment.
FTFY
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
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JimmyRopes wrote: I have homework questions
Well, in my case, I assign my own homework. 
Marc
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Marc Clifton wrote: CP just doesn't address the same niche.
But why doesn't it address that niche? CP has been going a lot longer, has the whole article thing going for it, and has both forums and QA. So, why is SO the first port of call in Google, where CP barely gets a mention?
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I feel that CP is more for articles, SO for Q&A.
If the CP community took a tougher stance on rubbish that appears in the Q&A like SO appear to do and changed the format slightly I think it would help.
However how to achieve that on both fronts I'm not quite sure.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote: What went wrong here?
CP is about articles, not Q&A.
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You might want to mention that to Chris. He seems to have allocated some time and energy to the forums and QA.
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This discussion has been held a number of times. CP wants a more inclusive approach where low grade questions are tolerated (along with low grade answers). SO is a bit more selective I feel with questions and consequently there is less spam. The cabal of high ranking posters seeking points is not helping. I don't care how high their rank they mostly all post a great deal of crap to get there and their motives are completely transparent. About 50% of what is currently in the Q&A could be culled without any loss whatsoever.
Peter Wasser
"The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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CP has never been the go-to source for short snippets and answers to 'how do I do this simple thing I forgot?' questions, which is what most of us need resources for. It's attempted to barge in on SO's domain with Q&A, but our Q&A is not a patch on SO and it doesn't have the Google karma either.
For more in-depth things and reading about new topics or expanding the mind, CP is far superior. But we don't need to do that as often.
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The irony here, of course, is that Chris reportedly planned QA long before SO came on the scene. In fact, there was a fair bit of bad blood between the two sides when SO was launched.
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Hand in your code project membership at the door. Security will see you out. Please don't attempt to contact any of us again. Your sort are not welcome round here anymore.
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