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Shameel wrote: Sheep, you forgot the sheep!!!
I was reviewing the posts in my thread and randomly clicked on this one.
I'm not going to read the posts that lead up to this one, rather, I'll resign myself to a sense of wonderment on how we got to 'Sheep'.
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MehGerbil wrote: how we got to 'Sheep'
The cowboy[^] knows the secret 
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OriginalGriff wrote: Agreed: it's just saying "they all look the same to me" which is not acceptable in cats, so why should it be in humans?
From this I read one mustn't be too choosy about women you make love to. As they say, all cats look grey in the dark. 
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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MehGerbil wrote: Can I make my own passport with a 3x5 card and a crayon and board a plane?
No you need to go to Bangkok to get a professionally made fake! 
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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JimmyRopes wrote: No you need to go to Bangkok to get a professionally made fake!
Which is a problem if you are on the no fly list and therefore need the passport (assuming you aren't near Bangkok already). 
The good thing about pessimism is, that you are always either right or pleasently surprised.
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JimmyRopes wrote: No you need to go to Bangkok to get a professionally made fake laydee!
ftfy
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Reports I saw indicated that Malaysian airport security didn't bother to do the bare minimum needed to verify if the passports were valid, because if that had they'd've found out they were stolen. In between molesting children and the elderly the theatrical security agency also does the things that would be all that a non-elephanted security service would do.
What I'm curious about is if the failing was institutional (there was no verify policy in place), due to incompetence/indifference (the checkers couldn't be bothered to do their job), or due to corruption (bribed to look the other way).
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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This was not in the United States or one of its dependents or territories, nor was the plane headed to the US or one of its dependents or territories. The TSA is entirely irrelevant to what happened.
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Gregory is spot on. If you want to assign blame, assign it correctly. In this case the Malaysian systems are suspect. It has nothing to do with whatever security might be in place in the USA.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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The numerous problems with airport security in the USA have been demonstrated elsewhere.
I wouldn't use a Malaysian airport security problem to denigrate the TSA as it isn't necessary.
Instead, I'm pointing to a larger issue wherein this latest tragedy is yet more evidence of a systemic world-wide problem - and I'm not talking about terrorism, but rather, the government's tendency to put on a nice show that inconveniences people but that accomplishes nothing.
Granted, it would have been clearer had I said, "Like the TSA, the Malaysian airport security people have demonstrated that security is little more than a dog and pony show that has little to nothing to do with protecting people and more to do with making people feel good right before they die."
I'll attempt to be more clear in the future.
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Your clearer point is well taken.
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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I hate it when people point out mistakes in my posts but I think the both of you did the right thing by pointing it out. You might want to screen capture this as I'll never admit error again.
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Auntie interviewed a geezer this morning who was talking about his time as head of the UK Borders Agency. He said about 50,000 people slip through the net each year using such passports but compared to the 50,000,000 (I think he said) that's about 1/1000 who sneak in. That means there are lots of Manchester United supporters on the loose. No bloody wonder they need passports and non-refundable deposits to visit London. It takes a lot of money to hunt them down, clean up after them, and send them back home.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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Do you actually pay to clean them up?
If I were ever to ex-patriot to England I'd probably become interested in sports. I couldn't care a wit for sports in the USA but the sheer thuggary of English sports (and Europe in general) is awesome. The closest thing we have to it in the states is NASCAR - the only sport where we get to watch people die.
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Have you seen them? They walk around in red shirts which is useful as it helps the cleanup crews identify where they are in the crowd. It also helps the seagulls to home in on dropped food, like a fighter jet following the beacons when landing on an aircraft carrier. I know it sounds very stereotyped but ask anyone living in the sarf. We only know how to tell the truth.
Mind you, the photo in my passport looks like Martin Bayfield's mugwatch board on Crimestoppers.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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As I recall, passports are not checked by the TSA (or whatever passes for "security" in Malaysia or overseas) but rather by the airline personnel (the gate agent). Once you have a boarding pass, then the security checkpoint personnel only checks to see if your identification (i.e., passport, drivers license, etc) matches your boarding pass and your face.
If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein
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They missed out number 11: they won't be able to see the screen while up there cleaning the chimney anyway...
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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They're not all up the chimneys, some are down t'mine.
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Just noticed your Premium badge. Does that mean you pay to be here?
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I have no idea where that came from. I think the Hamsters were pished again.
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Yes, I've just seen that. 
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They awarded me one, too. No idea where it came from, but I have to make space for all the badges if they continue to gimme them in that speed.
The scariest moment is always just before the Start - Stephen King
Die Frauen warten auf die Liebe, und die Männer warten auf die Frauen - Wolf Wondratschek
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