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enhzflep wrote: I take it you're a calm and patient man then
I used to be, nowadays I'm more of nervous wreck. It's just my cynicism that keeps me up.
You know what they say, can't live with them, cant live without them. 
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OriginalGriff wrote: W3Schools http://www.w3schools.com/browsers/browsers_stats.asp[^] and they have no axe to grind!
No they don't have an ax to grind but they are gathering statistics about people who are visiting W3C websites. These are technical people and not representative of users in general.
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Very true - but they are one of the few sites I am aware of that publish "live" data on month by month trends.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: they are one of the few sites I am aware of that publish "live" data on month by month trends.
Yes they do.
You need to be careful when comparing the data from W3C to other data because they measure unique visitors and others don't bother to do so. The exception is Net Applications, they try to get unique data also.
What I mean by unique is that they don't count as 20 if you visit 20 times from the same IP address, they count it as one. Others would count it as 20 for that type of browser so comparisons are difficult.
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I'm on-line therefore I am.
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It's always a problem. I hate it when the news says "Blah blah is up 168% on last year! That's terrible!" as they did last week. Without some kind of base number it's worthless 100 -> 168 is trivial, 100,000 -> 168,000 is significant!
Or Laboratoire elephanting Garnier: 78% of women agreed! (sample size: 8) Bah! Humbug! 
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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I just don't trust Wiki that much: I can edit it, you can edit it, Dalek Dave has been known to edit it... It's useful, but you need some backup - which is why I gave the W3Schools link as well.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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The only stats that matter is the stats from the website you maintain!
That said I find these statistics[^] interesting.
It's from Akamai.
Note how IE drops during the weekends. but only with five percent. Twenty percent still use it in the weekends.
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And that 5% is mirrored in the Opera Safari / Android figures: corporate policy dictates IE...
[edit]I have opera on the brain...[/edit]
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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Safari/Android is what people have on their phones/tablets, I believe it's the people that don't care for a computer at home any more.
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Yep - and the drop in IE is matched by the pick-up in those two.
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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But that doesn't really need to be a corporate policy then.
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You are very unfair, sir. 
--The Inuit People
Veni, vidi, vici.
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I've just started watching the second season of House of Cards, and once again, it's Macs as far as the eye can see.
The constant product placement is getting under my skin.
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It all comes down to money. Show a product in a show and it's advertising. Does the company want to pay to have their product shown in the show?
If you've seen Elementary in the U.S., you've probably noticed that Microsoft is sponsoring a few of episodes of the show with product placements for Surface.
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Product placement discussions always remind me of Repo Man[^]. 
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It angers me as well when in Zombie movies they don't follow George Romeo zombie template. Bast-rds.
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I think it's a matter of sponsorship. For example, Arrow[^] (yes, I know it's a TV series, not a movie!) has Windows 8 on every single computer.
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Because they don't want to have to pay licensing fees and/or the companies don't want to pay for the product placement.
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I was looking for a song and just typed "khd" in search box on home. The first suggestion was something in Arabic and layout switched to right to left.
Is this something regional or does everyone experiences it?
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Does not happen in Thailand (google.co.th).
The top entry is KHD International[^] and the whole first page is various pages on KHD website or something about KHD International.
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain
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I'm on-line therefore I am.
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Just been to the shops, and the cashier caught her hand and got a paper cut.
"Ow!" she goes. "Paper cut!"
The woman behind me chimes in with "Nothing worse than a paper cut!"
Pardon? There are loads of things worse:
Being poked in the eye with a sharp stick - never tried it, but that's gotta be pretty bad.
Picking up a soldering iron by the wrong end. That's worse, trust me. And it smells.
Catching your gentleman's vegetables on the crossbar of a pushbike. That's much worse!
So why do we say things that are patently untrue?
"VB is a good programming language for the real world"
"Windows 8 is wonderful!"
"Apple are a technology based company"
And worse, why do we accept them without calling other people an elephanting moron? Guesses, anyone?
Those who fail to learn history are doomed to repeat it. --- George Santayana (December 16, 1863 – September 26, 1952)
Those who fail to clear history are doomed to explain it. --- OriginalGriff (February 24, 1959 – ∞)
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OriginalGriff wrote: Picking up a soldering iron by the wrong end. That's worse, trust me. And it
smells.
Stop it! In the afternoon I want to solder a landing gear for the model Huey and I want to concentrate on the work without constantly thinking about frying my hand. 
The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
I hold an A-7 computer expert classification, Commodore. I'm well acquainted with Dr. Daystrom's theories and discoveries. The basic design of all our ship's computers are JavaScript.
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