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ThAnks for the links. 
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Interesting report on Boeing's use of it. I'd have loved to see them try that with you-know-what.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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I preferred her sister Linda
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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Hopefully you're not referring to the earlier work where you're pretty much watching a woman getting sexually abused on film?
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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Rob Grainger wrote: Hopefully you're not referring to the earlier work where you're pretty much watching a woman getting sexually abused on film?
No he is referring to the real Linda who got abused in real life. 
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Never heard of Ada, but I think that she might have a sister called Linda?!?!?! 
[EDIT] Great Twisted minds think alike. DD posted an identical comment right the same second I did...  [/EDIT]
Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
Anonymous
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The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
Winston Churchill, 1944
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I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
Me, all the time
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Johnny J. wrote: Great Twisted minds think alike.
Thinking the same as DD isn't really something of which you should be proud. 
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"Ada Lovelace is the worlds first computer programmer, writing the first algorithm to be processed by a machine."
Almost true - it was never actually processed, because they didn't manage to construct it at the time (machining was not up to scratch).
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough."
Alan Kay.
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No it was never actually processed on a machine (the machine didn't exist at the time) but it still is the first algorithm written to be processed on a machine.
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Using VS2013 for the first time in anger .. and I mean "anger"
if I see the
'Waiting for required operation ...'
dialog once more (this last timeI was copying 24 lines of code to the clipboard and, while I didn't time it, it was long enough for me to open the browser, come to CP, and enter most of this message!)
I have also had to close it and re-open once as the intellisense refused to pick up some new classes that had been added - leaving red squiggles a-plenty even though it would build clean.
And this is in a small project - god knows what I'm going to experience when I open the main project in it!
Dis-a-pointed!
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Sounds like you forgot to use the command line switch /operateatnormalspeedyoubastard
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and/or the /runinvs2010mode switch
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Mike Hankey wrote: /runinvs2010mode
christ, no! I had enough trouble with 2010 that I was hoping for some respite!
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Oh my mistake I thought since you were using VS that you were a masochist? 
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I tried installing it at home as I was playing with some c# stuff. It requires the latest version of IE which fails to install for some obscure reason on my home machine. Real men code in vim.
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_Josh_ wrote: Real men code in vim.
I don't disagree, but feel that
"real men code in their underpants" is more accurate.
Unless it's my computer (which is always a possibility, I guess) then I am disapointed that 2013 can be as bad as my initial experience leads me to believe!
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There is a simple registry hack to tell the installer you have IE10 installed.
Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Internet Explorer]
"svcVersion"="10.0.0.0"
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Wow6432Node\Microsoft\Internet Explorer]
"svcVersion"="10.0.0.0"
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Awesome, thanks. I'll try it out tonight.
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Actually I'm pleased MS implemented such a brain dead requirement, it was the final straw that got us local admin rights back from the policy nazis.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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The original installer REQUIRED that you install at least IE10.
The current installer RECOMMENDS that you use at least IE10, but you can ignore it. 'Course, that means you miss out on some of the Microsoft crappiness.
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I have to reboot at least twice a day, whether this is because the IT gods crap all over my system at lunch time or VS2013 has finally spat the dummy completely I'm not sure.
Except when it loses the plot, as per your rant, it seems a little faster that 12. All version of VS have had their shortcomings but I'd rather not have to use another IDE.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity
RAH
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Mycroft Holmes wrote: All version of VS have had their shortcomings
Except version 6, that was the sweet spot as a c++ programmer before all the dot net stuff came along.
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really?
Even over VS2008 with SP1?
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I've actually been pleasantly surprised in working with VS2013 versus 08, 10, or 12.
I do, however, have to restart VS (both 12 and 13) more than once in a while because it doesn't recognize that I removed a class and so decides that it won't compile anymore.
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