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GeneralRe: Interesting piece on the fallibility of science. Pin
Kent Sharkey27-Jan-14 8:39
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Erudite_Eric27-Jan-14 9:06
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jschell27-Jan-14 9:23
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Erudite_Eric27-Jan-14 10:02
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jschell28-Jan-14 10:08
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Erudite_Eric29-Jan-14 4:34
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ZurdoDev27-Jan-14 10:14
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W Balboos, GHB27-Jan-14 9:08
W Balboos, GHB27-Jan-14 9:08 
Sorry to disappoint you: global warming never implied growing your own bananas and lemons in Norway.

What it does mean is putting more energy into the atmosphere - storms bigger and more often, stormy seasons extending, and weather patterns changing. It could even potentially account for the rather brutish cold much of the US is going through of late. Consider what a couple or so degrees of warmed ocean would do during the hurricane season.

Or not. The thing about weather is that any short range of time doesn't give one really any result at all as weather is what is known as a strange attractor (q.v.).

But forgetting all the political nonsense, I put to you the following information which IS indisputable:

  1. The earth is in a dynamic steady state with respect to energy: radiational heating in on the day side, out on the night side. These reach a balance, with the environment acting as a buffer.
  2. Sources: We are putting ancient CO2 into the atmosphere. Not only by burning fossil fuels but by releasing it from minerals in order to trap SO2 to avoid acid rain (another conspiracy?)
  3. Sinks: We are removing the components of the earth, such as rain forests and forest in general which trap carbon from the atmosphere.
  4. Thus, the system must reach a new equilibrium. Period. You make up anything you wish as to what the new state will be - but it will most definitely be.


At this point, a mitigating circumstance, such as a huge volcanic eruption, could cause extreme cooling, counteracting some of this temporarily, but unless we return to nuclear power, we'll burn even more fossil fuel and emerge in an even more unstable system.


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GeneralRe: Interesting piece on the fallibility of science. Pin
Erudite_Eric27-Jan-14 10:12
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Stefan_Lang28-Jan-14 1:56
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W Balboos, GHB28-Jan-14 2:10
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Erudite_Eric29-Jan-14 4:36
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W Balboos, GHB29-Jan-14 4:46
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Erudite_Eric29-Jan-14 5:50
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W Balboos, GHB29-Jan-14 6:35
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Erudite_Eric27-Jan-14 8:17
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jschell27-Jan-14 9:25
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Erudite_Eric27-Jan-14 10:04
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Erudite_Eric27-Jan-14 11:20
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