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jschell31-Dec-13 8:10

jschell

31-Dec-13 8:10

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
He's retiring against his will.

Some reason he can't get another job?

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter31-Dec-13 8:12

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

31-Dec-13 8:12

Yes. His illness...

dan!sh 31-Dec-13 8:40

dan!sh

31-Dec-13 8:40

Are you looking for only mental exercises? If yes, I guess he is old enough to choose. For physical exercises, take a look at this.[^]

"Bastards encourage idiots to use Oracle Forms, Web Forms, Access and a number of other dinky web publishing tolls.", Mycroft Holmes[^]

Dr.Walt Fair, PE31-Dec-13 12:10

Dr.Walt Fair, PE

31-Dec-13 12:10

Anything! Whatever interests him is what he should do!

At 65 my dad started studying watch making and spent lots of time going to parks and the beach on Mondays with his metal detector. You'd be surprised at what people lost during the weekend.

At 60 I went back to grad school. I'm now 63 and finishing my PhD.

CQ de W5ALT

Walt Fair, Jr., P. E.
Comport Computing
Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

JimmyRopes2-Jan-14 4:55

JimmyRopes

2-Jan-14 4:55

Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:
What would you teach your 60 year old daddy?

Nothing, he can probably teach you a thing or two!

The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain

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How ANgry...

Michael Martin30-Dec-13 19:12

Michael Martin

30-Dec-13 19:12

...am I allowed to be? And how stupid is my son?

So, wife had her birthday on Boxing Day, the FIL the day after and the next day he dies (it weren't unexpected).

Today, after I finish a bit of sub contracted PC fixing I stop off to deposit payments into a bank. To do this I park next to a bottle shop and being New Years Eve I had to get something. So decide to get a large bottle of Bundy OP (AUD$78.00) for the Missus birthday (yes, it is her favourite drop). So come home and place it on the dining table.

I then walk outside to help bring in snacks and drinks for the daughters 14th birthday party when I hear her (the wife) pull up. She looks up and exclaims "your Father's home" when I walk out the front door. This is the first she knows of it even though she just parked next to my car out the front of the house.

So my son (Captain Moron) decides he needs to hide the bottle of Rum (Note that this is considerably smaller than the car she couldn't notice right next to hers and as far from the front door as possible. Also note it is in a paper bag, so effectively invisible to her). So he picks it up, and drops it before he has taken 2 steps. Glass everywhere, rum through my built but not setup NAS and all through my laptop bag, soaked through the bag to the inside. Covers all up about 12-16 square metres.

I scream obscenities and walk up the road for a bit, the wife stupidly abuses the boy (who is a moron) cause she thinks this is what I want (it is what I want, along with a solid smack to the head, but all I will achieve is getting neck deep in the sh*t) then abuses me cause she abused him.

Now I'm being told it is an accident and not to worry she didn't need the Rum. She can't understand that I would prefer to burn the AUD$80.00 as I am still out of pocket but didn't have to view the trauma of 1.125 litres of OP Rum all over the floor and then the 20+ miniutes of cleaning it up and the remainder of the night walking around bare foot to find the glass they missed.

Michael Martin
Australia

"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

Shameel30-Dec-13 20:21

Shameel

30-Dec-13 20:21

Michael Martin wrote:
view the trauma of 1.125 litres of OP Rum all over the floor

Run away before Nagy reads this.

Michael Martin wrote:
walking around bare foot to find the glass they missed

You sure deserve a Darwin award.

Michael Martin30-Dec-13 20:27

Michael Martin

30-Dec-13 20:27

Shameel wrote:
Run away before Nagy reads this.

Puhlease. You have been around here long enough to know that Nagy drinks that girly thing only women drink here in Oz, Gin.

When it comes to Rum, especially Bundy OP, no one, and I do mean no one come above me on attachment.

SoMad30-Dec-13 21:43

SoMad

30-Dec-13 21:43

Condolences on the loss of your FIL (expected or not). Tragic about the rum too. Frown | :(

Soren Madsen

"When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

Johann van der Smut31-Dec-13 0:24

Johann van der Smut

31-Dec-13 0:24

Michael Martin wrote:
walking around bare foot to find the glass they missed

I love go-o-o-o-ld!

Manfred Rudolf Bihy31-Dec-13 1:01

Manfred Rudolf Bihy

31-Dec-13 1:01

Condolences regarding your father in law.
Cry | :((

Regarding the spilt rum.

But anyhow, I wish you a happy and successful new year. May the Bundy OP flow in abundance, as long as it isn't on the floor that is. Big Grin | :-D

Cheers!

P.S. I'm still waiting another 11 hours here in Germany for the year to end and the new to begin.

"I had the right to remain silent, but I didn't have the ability!"

Ron White, Comedian

Roger Wright31-Dec-13 3:22

Roger Wright

31-Dec-13 3:22

That's a lousy way to start the New Year, Mick; my condolences... Cry | :((

Since I have a 1.75L bottle of Captain Morgan's rum right here on the counter, I'l have a cup in your honor. Cheers!

Will Rogers never met me.

Course Selection? Discrete Mathematics, or Machine Org/Assembler Language?

Jörgen Andersson31-Dec-13 23:26

Jörgen Andersson

31-Dec-13 23:26

Wrong is evil and must be defeated.
- Jeff Ello[^]

Jon Plotner30-Dec-13 10:37

Jon Plotner

30-Dec-13 10:37

Machine ORG/Assembler Language VS. Discrete Mathematics

I can only take one. Which should it be? Why?

I want to take the class that will be most beneficial to me in the long run, and have the greatest impact on my thought processes and understanding/ make me more valuable in the workforce.

Currently I have three path pulling at me. Industrial and Systems Engineering, Biomedical Engineering, Computer Science/Software Engineering. I start my masters program in Fall 2014 and want to take take some extra classes before my program starts.

Thank you for your advice and help!

-Plot Java | [Coffee]

Thank you again everyone! Discrete Math it is! Smile | :)

I love puzzles so I am excited to take the course. Thanks for all your input and great explanations.

Much Love,
-Plot Java | [Coffee]

modified 30-Dec-13 19:02pm.

Re: Course Selection? Discrete Mathematics, or Machine Org/Assembler Language?

Albert Holguin30-Dec-13 10:56

Re: Course Selection? Discrete Mathematics, or Machine Org/Assembler Language?

30-Dec-13 10:56

For the long run... I'd say discrete mathematics... but then again, I have a minor in mathematics. Smile | :)

As to the reason why... discrete mathematics should help you understand the mathematics involved with discrete data processes. Hopefully by gaining an understanding as to the mathematics involved, you should be able to more fully comprehend how things are being achieved (in general, assuming you can extrapolate the mathematics).

Machine/assembly language is good to know, but you'll rarely use it and it's VERY specific to an architecture. So even if you learn to use it well in class, it'll be rare that you use the same instruction set again (unless you happen to get a very specific job).

That's just my five cents. Wink | ;)

Gregory Gadow30-Dec-13 11:00

Gregory Gadow

30-Dec-13 11:00

I was a math major in college and later switched to IT; I've taken both classes. I would recommend the Discrete Math.

Discrete math is basically a class in logic, with inductive proofs, set theory and combinatronics taking the bulk of the course. It actually is a lot more fun than it sounds, especially if you enjoy puzzles. With this under your belt, other classes -- including ASM -- will make a lot more sense, as you will have the theory upon which the practical applications are based.

Re: Course Selection? Discrete Mathematics, or Machine Org/Assembler Language?

YvesDaoust30-Dec-13 11:28

YvesDaoust

30-Dec-13 11:28

Assembler language is no rocket science, you can learn it by yourself. Here is an accelerated course:

Your processor has registers (int and float), it performs arithmetic & logic instructions (taking two or three operands); operands are in registers or taken from/to memory through simple address computation; memory holds a special area called the stack (lifo); you can "label" the instructions and jump to them, unconditionally or based on the result of the previous instruction (sign, overflow); there are special jumps called "calls" from which you can jump back later.

C++

Solve:
  load f0, K[0] // Read coefficient A
  load f1, K[1] // Read coefficient B
  load f2, K[2] // Read coefficient C
  load f3, f1 // Copy B
  mul f3, f3 // Square it
  mul f2, f0 // Multiply C by A (C overwritten)
  mul f2, 4 // 4.A.C
  sub f3, f2 // B.B - 4.A.C
  jmp neg, Done // No root
  push f3 // Push the argument onto the stack
  call Sqrt // Call the square root function
  pop f3 // Get the return value, Sqrt(B.B - 4.A.C)
  sub f3, f1 // - B + Sqrt(D)
  mul f0, 2 // 2.A
  div f3, f0 // (- B + Sqrt(D)) / 2.A
  store X, f3 // Write the root
Done:
  ret // Return control to the caller

If you were able to follow that code, you can move on to the Discrete Mathematics course, for which no accelerated version is available. Smile | :)

modified 30-Dec-13 17:37pm.

Re: Course Selection? Discrete Mathematics, or Machine Org/Assembler Language?

Nelek30-Dec-13 12:22

Nelek

30-Dec-13 12:22

M.D.V.

If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

Re: Course Selection? Discrete Mathematics, or Machine Org/Assembler Language?

Jon Plotner30-Dec-13 13:16

Jon Plotner

30-Dec-13 13:16

I believe you are saying, and this is a bit of a hunch/guess given the topic we are discussing.

Also please excuse any errors I am semi new to computer science and it's vocabulary.

There are low level and high level language, assembly being a very low level/machine level set of instructions. Writing machine level is more time consuming for functionally equivalent algorithms. So, many decades ago people solved this issue by creating higher level language and compilers.

So, solved problem is machine/assembler language.

I'd say we should worry about solved problems a) so we know our solution is correct b) in the framework of computers so we can better understand the machine (TLDR: understanding solved problems is important so we can understand higher level concepts, arithmatic-> algebra-> calculus-> differential E.Q.)

If there is no solution we should worry about it because a problem having no solution simple means we currently do not know how to solve it (granted there is no solution to some philosophical problems, and I believe those shouldn't be worried about) E.G. calculus made "unsolvable" problems solvable. This makes your second question a valuation of progress. If we value knowledge and progress we should worry about the "unsolvable" If we don't care then we shouldn't. I say we should because we can use knowledge to improve living conditions for mankind, and I believe life should be as responsibly pleasurable as possible (a somewhat hedonistic view) So, we should worry about the "unsolvable" because it may be solvable given new technique and approach.

I suspect that your first question represents the course on assembly language, and your second question represents discrete mathematics... Big Grin | :-D

That was fun, ty for the fun opportunity to think about your questions. SO, how did you mean for them to be interpreted?

ALso, Thank you both for your posts

Re: Course Selection? Discrete Mathematics, or Machine Org/Assembler Language?

Albert Holguin30-Dec-13 16:21

Re: Course Selection? Discrete Mathematics, or Machine Org/Assembler Language?

30-Dec-13 16:21

Think you mistook @Nelek's signature line for a post directly relating to your original post.

Jon Plotner30-Dec-13 17:46

Jon Plotner

30-Dec-13 17:46

Haha your right...

Re: Course Selection? Discrete Mathematics, or Machine Org/Assembler Language?

Albert Holguin30-Dec-13 18:14

Re: Course Selection? Discrete Mathematics, or Machine Org/Assembler Language?

30-Dec-13 18:14

I guess you just learned about signature lines... Poke tongue | ;-P

Nelek31-Dec-13 0:08

Nelek

31-Dec-13 0:08

I think so Poke tongue | ;-P

M.D.V.

Re: Course Selection? Discrete Mathematics, or Machine Org/Assembler Language?

BillWoodruff30-Dec-13 16:05

BillWoodruff

30-Dec-13 16:05

What really worries me are the times when I stop worrying and feel over-confident in my own technical mastery: for those times are, inevitably, punctuated by disasters in judgement Smile | :)

Happy New Year !

“I'm an artist: it's self evident that word implies looking for something all the time without ever finding it in full. It is the opposite of saying : 'I know all about it. I've already found it.'

As far as I'm concerned, the word means: 'I am looking. I am hunting for it. I am deeply involved.'”

Vincent Van Gogh

Re: Course Selection? Discrete Mathematics, or Machine Org/Assembler Language?

Albert Holguin30-Dec-13 16:17