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"I want to stress the importance of being young and technical"
I think more important being "Tactical" as one age. After you have ten years around your belt, age start work against you in competing or just keeping your job as now you'd be far more expensive.
Instead of bitching about ageism and discrimation, best be "Tactical", plan ahead before it rains - whether it means saving up for early retirement, pay off your mortgage ahead of time, or start your own gig it's up to you.
Given volatility trusting your firm will continue hire your arse till you're 65 just plain bad retirement planning. HR talks about loyalty and bitch about job hopping- but they will ditch you when they see fits.
"Young People are just smarter"
Young people always think they are smarter. We all were, and some of us still do!
Why argue, you're not going to win!
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mark merrens wrote: Try being old and bald and unattractive...
I can do 2 of three, but there's no way I'm going to turn ugly.
speramus in juniperus
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Nagy Vilmos wrote: I can do 2 of three, but there's no way I'm going to turn ugly.
I think you picked the wrong two...
"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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Mark you cannot come out today, now go to the naughty step!
speramus in juniperus
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"If you think it's expensive to hire a professional to do the job, wait until you hire an amateur." Red Adair.
Those who seek perfection will only find imperfection
nils illegitimus carborundum
me, me, me
me, in pictures
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It is not the age, it's the fact that companies prefer people who would do more(long hours, overwork) for less that it is worth and that is mostly something the younger and less experienced will do. And I won't even start talking about quality, speed and standards.
I'm not saying this is a rule, there lot of people that are under thirties and already carry a lot of knowledge, but there are even more that don't.
There are no secrets to success. It is the result of preparation, hard work, and learning from failure. Colin Powell
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Some ten years ago, I was asked in a job interview: "Now you are 35 years old. You'd be the oldest person in the team. Do you think you could cope with that?" Well, it was no problem for me, but for the company - I did not get that job.
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I was on the opposite side of the coin. In my previous job a higher level position opened up on my team and I asked my boss what I can do to be considered for that position. His reply was that I was not "seasoned enough" for the position, i.e. too young. The guy they hired was not that great and often asked for my help. The best question he asked me was, "What is Citrix?"
I think it all depends on the company culture, more established older companies are hesitant to promote young people to high up positions. while newer companies like Google and Facebook prefer young people
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Opera Desktop 18 is out for Mac and Windows, based on Chromium 31. The other, other browser improves (now with WebRTC!)
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Might as well call it Chrome.
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True dat. Maybe with an umlaut as they're Norwegian. Who wouldn't want to browse with Chröme?
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TTFN - Kent
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As a long term Opera user, I'm wondering how long it's going to take them to bake enough of their special sauce in to decide it's a suitable auto upgrade from v12.x.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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The end of an era is here. AOL announced that the music service Winamp is shutting down on December 20, 2013. This move affects its website, Winamp.com, associated Web services, and also its Winamp Media players. And here’s an interesting fact: Winamp has been around 15 years. Sometimes, the llama wins
Oh, there's the problem: "Its parent company, Nullsoft, was acquired by AOL in 1999."
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Wow, what a coincidence!
I just installed Winamp for the first time today and now I may as well just uninstall it before I get used to it.
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Well, if you never need upgrades or support... /sigh
I'd grab one of these[^]
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TTFN - Kent
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GeekforChrist wrote: I may as well just uninstall it before I get used to it.
Why? I've been using my circa 2002 edition with no problems all these years! 
/ravi
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one of the bill's most important provisions, designed to make it easier to nix low-quality software patents, will be left on the cutting room floor. That provision was the victim of an aggressive lobbying campaign by patent-rich software companies such as IBM and Microsoft.
Is there even "high-quality" software patents?
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Some patents are worse than others. Still, I am not surprised that IBM & MS oppose this bill.
Just because the code works, it doesn't mean that it is good code.
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Whew...Now my Incrementor patent will make me rich.
Here are the details:
Any code which uses any of the following methods will require payment to me.
++i;
i += [Literal];
i = i + [Literal];
i++;
It won't be long now and I'll be rich because of my contribution to the programming world.
It's good to troll, when you have a patent.  
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fine, i'll just rewrite to this:
x = i;
i = x + [Literal]
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"high-quality software patents" is an oxymoron.
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Google's chief internet evangelist, Vint Cerf, suggests that privacy is a fairly new development that may not be sustainable. "Privacy may actually be an anomaly," Cerf said at an FTC event yesterday while taking questions. Elaborating, he explained that privacy wasn't even guaranteed a few decades ago: he used to live in a small town without home phones where the postmaster saw who everyone was getting mail from. "In a town of 3,000 people there is no privacy. Everybody knows what everybody is doing." "I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed, or numbered!"
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Kent Sharkey wrote: the postmaster saw who everyone was getting mail from
Unless the postmaster also opened every letter and read its contents in order to deliver more "personalised" junk-mail, that analogy sounds like BS to me. 
And even if privacy is a fairly new development, that doesn't mean we should abandon it. I presume he's not suggesting that the internet, computers, and wide-spread access to education and health care are also unsustainable?
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined."
- Homer
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Yes.
By that token, most of Human Rights are also an anomaly.
Why don't we start burning witches again?
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