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Unless HP pulled a Dell and is using something that only looks like a standard connector (for a while Dell had a 20(24?) pin connector that would fit in an ATX socket but had a different pinout); just about any PSU server or not should have that connector now. It largely displaced the older 4pin version a half dozenish years ago as systems became even more 12V + local VRM centric in design.
(Now if we could only create an ATX-lite cable that dropped several of the minimally used 5V and and virtually unused (since the retirement of legacy PCI) 3.3v wires and associated grounds to make a thinner more manageable cable.  )
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Dan Neely wrote: Unless HP pulled a Dell and is using something that only looks like a standard connector
Non standard stuff like that is so unnecessary and makes me so mad.
But as the Proliant has a Lite-On PSU supposedly off the shelf and not an HP labeled one, I believe we can safely assume that the connectors are standard.
The only way to be sure is of course to get a properly zoomed in picture of the connector.
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Thank you very much Jörgen, your reference has helped me to buy separate spare parts to build a home made PSU that fits my needs. i.e. get a normal PSU and put plenty of conversion plugs there.
It works, pending to change the computer name to Proliantkenstein now. 
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You're welcome. I'm glad to help.
Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers.
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Any 300W+ ATX PSU should do, the Mobo connector is just a 24 pin ATX connector.
Most PSU's these days have more SATA than Molex connections for the HDD's so you may need adaptors
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Not at all, if you take a look at the connector I've put a red circle on you will be able to see that the connector has 8 cables when the normal is that it has only 4 cables...
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OK I see, the picture wasn't working when I clicked the link.
The 8 pin connector is standard too, and normally used for PCI-e graphics cards (12v and ground connections)
Its called a 6+2 connector.
http://www.playtool.com/pages/psuconnectors/connectors.html[^]
PS
If you do replace the PSU find an compressed air line, or one of those cans of air and give it a good blast. It looks very dusty in there.
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Member 8314416 wrote: The 8 pin connector is standard too, and normally used for PCI-e graphics cards (12v and ground connections)
Its called a 6+2 connector.
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The 6+2 GPU connector and the 8 or 4+4 (although some newer gaming boards/psu's have both 8 and 4 pin connections to get more 12V amps) EPS12v CPU power connector are both 12V but have different polarities. If you're an idiot and working in a case that has very poor visibility it is possible to stuff 6 of the 8 pins of a GPU cable into CPU socket. Doing so will short 12V to ground. 
Luckily for me, my PSU's fault protection circuity shut everything down before any magic smoke was released. However it took several minutes to reset itself and allow power to resume flowing; that was not good for my heart rate.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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OK I stand corrected, thanks.
If the connector is the same though, would it not be possible to simply swap the wires around in the shell?
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They're not. To try and keep people from doing what I did the pins are keyed differently. OFC no engineer can defeat stupidity so I was able to jam 6 of the 8 pins in away by offsetting it by one pair.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Right then, I would cut the plug off the old PSU and new PSU and swap them over, soldering and heat shrinking the connections, that should work.
I guess its my electronics engineer background, or my fix it mentality. I do sometimes end up letting the magic smoke out myself sometimes too though. 
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Why?!?!?!
The ESP12V connector is ubiquitus on even low end PSUs now. Unless you're trying to save a few dollars by recycling an old gaming PSU with a 6+2 connector but only the old 4pin CPU one there's no circumstance when doing that would even vaguely make sense. And even then, cutting would be stupid; just get a molex pin pulling/inserting tool and swap the leads out. (That's what the people who want to swap plug colors for aesthetic reasons in their tricked out windowed gaming systems do.)
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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We are basically saying the same thing.
The answer is to buy a cheap PSU with EPS12V connector and some desktop PSU's have this connector too.
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At this point, any desktop PSU that doesn't have it can be safely assumed to be obsolete garbage...
At best it was a decent design for several years ago; equally likely it was a magic smoke releaser then too.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Well, at the end I've ended buying a normal PSU and put plenty of conversion plugs in there to get what I needed. 
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Thanks for the update, it does seem like the best way to go if on a budget, I have done similar on quite a few occasions to maintain software development servers over the years.
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To be honest, I would probably junk the server. Not because it's old, but because I've had problems before where a PSU has failed, and "spiked" the 5V and 12V lines, leading to failure of the RAM (intermittent) and HDD (terminal) shortly after a new PSU was installed.
Even used PSU's are fetching $150 on FleaBay, and I wouldn't touch a "used" PSU with a ten foot cattle prod!
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OriginalGriff wrote: I wouldn't touch a "used" PSU with a ten foot cattle prod!
That's right... 
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I can only second Griff on this one : changed my PSU twice in very short time, and had to change the computer as next move. 
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Restarted this afternoon the poor old thing.
Let's see if it works as expected or not.
:cross-fingers:
Now the building of the PSU interfaces have been interesting... there are conversion cables for almost every single thing under the sun...
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Never seen that one. Doesn't the MOBO have those little white letters on it that identify the connectors? I can't tell from that angle/zoom.
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It seems it is an ESP12V connector. There are no normal PSU's out there with that, but they sell a small cable that converts the normal molex connector (the one to power the ide hdd's) to that special thing.
From that point I've got a normal PSU and several conversion plugs.
Now it works again.
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Joan Murt wrote: I have an old HP Proliant server in our factory which of course have a power supply. This PSU died yesterday.
Joan,
Can the server be virtualised and run on a new box using VMware ESXi or HyperV?
There is software available (free I think) that will do P2V (Physical to Virtual) conversions.
Michael Martin
Australia
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Good idea for the future, but how do you make this conversion if you can't start it up? I wouldn't move the raid over to another server until I had exhausted all other possibilities.
Politicians are always realistically manoeuvering for the next election. They are obsolete as fundamental problem-solvers.
Buckminster Fuller
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Jörgen Andersson wrote: Good idea for the future, but how do you make this conversion if you can't start it up? I wouldn't move the raid over to another server until I had exhausted all other possibilities.
You're assuming it is running RAID. Hard to tell from the zoomed in picture we had to look at, but if it's in a factory I'm betting it is a tower not a rack mountable box and I've dealt with enough of the smaller Proliant boxes were I have found most to have no RAID. If this is so then load the HDD in another machine running said software and let it image the boot drive to a VM.
We'll need Joan to pipe in soon with more detail.
Michael Martin
Australia
"I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible."
- Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004
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