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Quote: I wouldn't offer my seat to a pregnant man
However it would make the Sun the following day (Non-UK CPians insert Tabloid news rag of choice!)
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Longer ago than that. In 1964 I was in Japan and took a train to Tokyo. The train was full and several older Japanese women tried to get up and give me their seat. I politely refused and kept standing (it was only about a 20 minute ride). I would have felt terrible taking their seat and having them stand.
A different world, Japan!
Dave
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(Let's use the author's reasoning) Perhaps we shouldn't make any accommodations for anyone. Why make considerations for an illness, handicap, or age? Equality is equality.
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The sad thing is, it isn't just the author. There are lots of people who agree that it is sexist.
I'm moving to Mars.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I'm down with that. There's a lot of good off-roading on the red planet.
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Only if you get really good at jumping the canals! 
The only instant messaging I do involves my middle finger.
English doesn't borrow from other languages.
English follows other languages down dark alleys, knocks them over and goes through their pockets for loose grammar.
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When on a bus you see a woman standing there glaring at you to offer them a seat, the correct procedure is to say "You fought for, and gained, sexual equality, so stand there and enjoy it".
That said I would offer up a seat to a pregnant woman, an elderly, infirm or disabled person or to a parent with a child.
Common decency requires no 'ism', but simply offering a seat to someone on the basis of their plumbing is no longer required.
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Obscurum per obscurius.
Ad astra per alas porci.
Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum videtur .
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Quote: but simply offering a seat to someone on the basis of their plumbing is no longer required.
How sad. It wasn't required before. It used to be called common decency.
The world needs more men to be men.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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RyanDev wrote: The world needs more men tory accountants to be men exterminated and replaced by machines.
I couldn't find anything else I disagreed with.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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That is my philosophy exactly. A young person with no obvious physical issues can stand, regardless of gender. If someone clearly needs a seat, or is using mobility support such as a cane or crutches, or is of an age where standing on a moving bus could be hazardous, I will be the first to give up my seat, regardless of gender.
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Being pregnant is not an illness, but being seven months pregnant and forced to stand is physically demanding. I strongly suspect that Ms. Peck has never carried a child to term, or she would know better.
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"And, as a style note, if we give the gestational status of the foetus, we probably don’t need to say “heavily pregnant”. That’s an unnecessary and judgemental qualifier"
OK!
Message received!
I'll go with:
-- "Hugely pregnant!"
-- "Massively pregnant!"
-- "Jesus, look at the bloody size of her pregnant!".
In cases like these, always be sure to remind people that they should be careful what they wish for.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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You know... It's probably already offensive to say they're pregnant
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So would I mate - the world has changed.
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Taking the pregnancy issue aside for a moment, it plainly is sexist to offer a female a seat just because of her sex. That's kind of the definition of the word.
Wrap it in 'being a gentleman' or 'common politeness' or whatever, the offering of a lady your seat is implication that she is somehow less able to stand than yourself.
I was taught these sort of manners as a youngster, and see them as politeness. However, kids growing up today are certainly not told to give up their seats for women (although they are often expected to give up their seats for adults of any persuasion )
Bottom line is, I think, you should offer up your seat to anyone less able to stand than yourself, regardless of age, sex' creed, colour etc.
Offering your seat to someone purely because of their sex? Sexist.
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Man, you're a god. - walterhevedeich 26/05/2011
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(That's an 'M')
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Quote: it plainly is sexist to offer a female a seat just because of her sex. That's kind of the definition of the word.
discrimination or devaluation based on a person's sex[^]
Sexism is a negative thing. Giving up your seat, even if the only reason is she is a woman, is not negative nor devaluating a woman. In fact, it is praising her and showing her respect. It is the opposite of sexism.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I find this debate very interesting. Perhaps you could explain how using a racial stereotype is equivalent to racism?
Racism is the belief of the superiority of one race over another, racial stereotypes are more cultural in a way.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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How? If I recognize that some guy from China valued school more than some guy from America, and is therefore better at academic things, how is that racism?
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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I'd argue that, if you knew both of the individuals concerned, you'd simply be choosing the more appropriate person for the task.
If on the other hand, as Colin's message implied to me, the persons were chosen purely on the basis of race, it would clearly be a case of racism. Just as its a case of racism and sexism when there are mandated quotas of ethnic minorities or women.
"Science adjusts its views based on what's observed. Faith is the denial of observation, so that belief can be preserved." - Tim Minchin
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enhzflep wrote: I'd argue that, if you knew both of the individuals concerned, you'd simply be
choosing the more appropriate person for the task.
You don't disagree with me. You're making my point, in fact.
The difficult we do right away...
...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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