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My view is anything you do on or say can come back to bite you. I know of a guy who filled in a form at Freshers Week because of a cute girl was talking to him, did nothing more than that. Later he was refused a work Visa for the states. It was for the Communist Party! Equally Snowden was a Sys Admin for a company that did work for the NSA wasn't he, he should have said something and excused himself from the project. I am of the opinion if you are trusted with something you should do it to the best of your abilities and not leak like a cracked vase, my two penny worth?? To quote my mum "he showed a lack of breeding by leaking all that information"
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Completely disagree, if you discover anyone is up to something immoral or illegal then it is your duty to tell people.
Ignoring it is just one step away from "I was just obeying orders".
“I believe that there is an equality to all humanity. We all suck.” Bill Hicks
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Spot on.
In fact, it is your legal duty, so he could have been tried as an accomplice for not whistle-blowing.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Point, (rather good point  )but still there is a problem with how the data is managed if a civilian can get to all that data and perform a leak like he did, remember Peter Wrights "Spy Catcher" and the fuss that caused...
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glennPattonWork wrote: there is a problem with how the data is managed
As I see it, without just cause such data should not exist, so nor should the problem.
I am not a criminal, nor am I implicated in any crimes, so no governments -- especially foreign governments, and more especially if they call themselves democratic -- have the right to retrieve such information about me nor store it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Two problems, the ability to collect data just because you can will be done if not by the government "for security" then by another agency "for marketing", in this day and age you can't escape it, to borrow and mangle a quote "if you leave it, they will find it". I know the first step to freedom is constant vigilance (paranoia?), my point was Snowden broke the trust he was given. Personally I don't know if he said to someone higher "This is wrong", he darn (KSS) well should have!
I don't really think the data should have been collected or stored without notice. I just can't help feeling like I'm like I'm in "Enemy of the State", when I first saw the film my thinking was how can they manage that much data from what I have heard it only gets looked at when you raise there attention (in the same way post and telephone calls were in the pre-00's). I just hope it isn't used rashly.
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I take it you are aware of the NSA and how members of the NSA have been spying on their partners and 'rivals' etc.
The whole thing is open to abuse which is why so many of us are not happy with our loss of confidentiality.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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According to the material Snowdon released, the government WAS spying on ordinary people, with absolutely no possible justification for that spying. In the United States, at least, what the US government was doing was illegal.
"Those who would give up essential liberties for the sake of a little temporary security deserve neither liberty nor security." - Benjamin Franklin
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Quite sad to see how governments are quite successfully convincing people to give up their privacy for a little bit of security from terrorism, just with the reasoning "You've got nothing to hide, so it doesn't affect you"...
There are still so many who just don't care to be spied upon. Those who are criticizing the government are still just a minority.
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ABC.
There, I feel better. The idea one does not live in blissful ignorance is blissful ignorance.
Leakers, Leaks, Spying => SoapBox.
bill
Google CEO, Erich Schmidt: "I keep asking for a product called Serendipity. This product would have access to everything ever written or recorded, know everything the user ever worked on and saved to his or her personal hard drive, and know a whole lot about the user's tastes, friends and predilections." 2004, USA Today interview
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Rob Philpott wrote: But as you might expect HYS is full of paranoid idiots who think the government
is spying on them and their stupid lives and their porn habits
The point that is missed here, is that in the US the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution. Clearly states
Individuals are protected “in their persons, houses, papers and effects” from unreasonable searches. If the police—agents of the executive branch—wish to search a home or other place for evidence of a crime, they must first convince a judge—the judicial branch—that there is enough evidence to obtain a search warrant. The court must decide if “probable cause” exists to issue a warrant, and the warrant must list the place to be searched and the evidence police believe they will find.
What Snodens documents seem to indicate is that the NSA is car blanche conducing searches without a warrant. Including staffers within the NSA spying on people they know.
Common sense is admitting there is cause and effect and that you can exert some control over what you understand.
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Yes, but only a Leslie, it's not a full Leslie Nielsen.
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How about we call it a Leslie Gore[^]?
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TTFN - Kent
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I think Leslie Valiant[^] is more appropriate, given the topic of the site.
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Oh you're talking about writing code I thought the airlines had some new kind of Fat Ass Tax? 
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I was given the tip-off yesterday about the Productivity Power Tools extension for VS2010+. A work colleague installed it for me and what a fine bit of work it is. It probably has more features than I need but the one I find the best is the addition of a file list accordion which replaces the sometimes awkward tabs in the IDE. You can also pin the files in the accordion. You lose some screen estate but not so much you notice. If you haven't come across it before I really recommend it.
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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I can only agree with that.
Also the search/replace window takes way less space than the old search and the colorisation makes it way easier to see what you were looking for. The Solution Navigator is a nice feature too (ClassView including members where you can directly navigate to)
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Yep. I wouldn't want to use VS without it any more than I would want to be without ReSharper.
Moving the list of open files into a vertical sidebar instead of a horizontal scroll list and the color coded scroll bar are both worth the price of admission (even if the latter, and the R# markup bar don't align with each other if you have anything collapsed). Solution navigator is great too. Unlike Nicholas, the alternate find option is the only feature I've disabled. I detest popup UI elements; and use the standard find and replace dialog docked in the same location as the properties panel.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: Unlike Nicholas, the alternate find option is the only feature I've disabled.
I've disabled this as well, though I think you're stuck with it in VS 2012.
In VS 2010 I have an extension (toolbar buttons) that lets me see in advance whether I am currently in case-sensitive match or whole word match mode. This doesn't play well with the power tools find.
Kevin
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Kevin McFarlane wrote: I've disabled this as well, though I think you're stuck with it in VS 2012.
I've done very little with 2012 since my last round of project starts predated when we got R#er upgrades; and no one wanted to change versions in midstream. I've sitll got the old dialog stacked with properties; but the stupid popup is catching Ctrl-F/H for me too.
I just Googled it; Ctrl-Shift-F goes to the old find dialog, and you can always remap keys[^] if you want to.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
--Zachris Topelius
Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies.
-- Sarah Hoyt
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Dan Neely wrote: Ctrl-Shift-F goes to the old find dialog,
Thanks for that. I have VS Express at home but haven't used it much. I'll try that next time.
Kevin
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If you leave a pack of butter on the cooling radiator and the heating comes on then move the butter BEFORE it melts and dribbles all over the floor.
speramus in juniperus
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Why? 
If there is one thing more dangerous than getting between a bear and her cubs it's getting between my wife and her chocolate.
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