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tumbledDown2earth wrote:
Why are they taking the industry 20 years backwards

Because the idea that everyone devotes the time and energy to actually doing their job when they aren't in the office has proved to be inaccurate. There are too many slackers who are overjoyed at the idea of becoming an invisible employee. Plus, there are parts of your job where it's just easier to talk something out over the top of a desk than through teleconferences and the like. Those quick 5 minute chats can be an absolute goldmine when it comes to your job.

Chill _Maxxx_

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Perhaps one could employ local laws relating to disability or equalities.

"I am a misogynistic, misanthropic, xenophobic, psychopathic, schizo-disassociative with aspergers and anger management issues. Here is a report from my psychiatrist. If you do not hire me and let me work at home, alone, without interruption, I shall sue you, (and eat your kidneys)."

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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Because the idea that everyone devotes the time and energy to actually doing their job when they aren't in the office has proved to be inaccurate. There are too many slackers who are overjoyed at the idea of becoming an invisible employee.

Proven where?

And versus what percentage of slacking that occurs in the office and employees who don't work at all when in the office?

Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
Those quick 5 minute chats can be an absolute goldmine when it comes to your job.

To your job. But to the cube mate on the other side of you two socializers who must listen to you discuss the latest problem and perhaps a non-work comment about the weekend every hour or more often might not be as productive.

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tumbledDown2earth wrote:
Why are they taking the industry 20 years backwards (if not more) as if internet was never invented AND its a clerical job to be software developers...

Made me lol.

Glad to hear that common sense is returning.

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Woow .. the buzz at codeproject seems to have taken a u-turn ... a similar topic only 3 months back had mixed feelings ....

And suddenly, surprisingly, it has taken a side ...

Its good, and I wonder if say-bye-bye-to-flexi-timing-policy would soon be prevalent again...

The world would be a great place then when people will come-together to work 14 hours a day and all will somehow be highly productive exactly in those predefined 14 hours... and all will have have equal times to travel (or probably sleep just below their workstations)

There is a problem when you don't have face-to-face. You lose some advantages when people spend all their time working from home.

Unfortunately this also happens when you have a geographically separated team.

My team is currently in six locations/cities around the world. It doesn't matter whether some of us work from home in terms of face-to-face.

As for productivity; if they want a rise in productivity there are lots of things they could do at our company to improve productivity.

* streamline our change management process to reduce paperwork but maintain accountability
* define periods of time every day when no meetings can happen involving line employees
* take management offsite one day a week (as a member of this group I can honestly say that we are one of the biggest blocks for employee productivity)
* reduce email load of employees. Take them out of the aliases they don't need to be in.
* streamline permissions acquisition for employees. (I've seen six week periods when an employee was basically fallow).
* stop architecting fragile systems that no one has the ability to map and few have the ability to understand
* attack technical debt instead of accruing it.
* understand that getting something done by a deadline and getting something done correctly by a deadline are two different things.
* change deadlines when workload shifts. Rather than believing that the 40 hours already promised for a week can still be accomplished when 10 more hours of work is put in front of it.

I imagine problems like the above exist at HP and Yahoo but management is fundamentally incapable of attacking pervasive cultural problems. So they go after the employees because that's the "low hanging fruit" in their minds.

We had a boss push this policy at one of our US East Coast city locations. The cost of coming in to the office was sufficiently high that many employees sent their resumes out and the resignations started. Those employees who left were actually leaving for better jobs (promotion, location and pay). The boss had to back the policy off before the exodus became a real problem. I think the whole process ran a six-week cycle, maybe a little longer.

If it had continued it would have made for an interesting study in the general quality of the workers who stayed. After all, if you can't switch jobs there are reasons and there are reasons.

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