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Randor 10-Sep-13 18:28

Randor

10-Sep-13 18:28

Collin Jasnoch wrote:
Am I missing the point of it being 64 bit?

Maybe.

Collin Jasnoch wrote:
Since there is only 2GB of RAM it seems pointless that they have a 64 bit architecture.

You probably believe that the increase from 32 bit addressing to 48/64 bit addressing allows the device to utilize more RAM. You would be correct. However another side effect is that it also allows for more general purpose registers.

I believe the iPhone 5 is using the 'Apple A6'/ARMv7-A which had 15 general purpose registers. While this new iPhone 5S is using the new 64 bit 'Apple A7'/ARMv8-A which has 31 general-purpose 64-bit registers. More registers essentially means that you can do more work. I would estimate an increase in performance of 15-25% (depending on the compiler optimizations) on this basis alone. However the ARMv8 also contains a new architecture so the end result may be as high as 25-30% increase in performance.

Collin Jasnoch wrote:
They will just by the next gadget regardless.

Apple is slow losing market ground to the competition. I am currently using the Nokia Lumia 720 which has the 'Qualcomm Snapdragon'/ARMv7.

Best Wishes,
-David Delaune

_Maxxx_10-Sep-13 13:37

_Maxxx_

10-Sep-13 13:37

Chris Maunder wrote:
ove the idea of a fingerprint sensor

So the NSA can get your prints too!

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_Damian S_10-Sep-13 14:02

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10-Sep-13 14:02

Chris Maunder wrote:
Green iPhone anyone?

Remove the i and I'll have it... oh wait, I already have a bright green phone (to match Booger Mobile)!!

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Mark_Wallace10-Sep-13 19:42

10-Sep-13 19:42

Chris Maunder wrote:
I really do wish they had been able to announce an iWatch to shown Samsung what a real smartwatch is like

What, you want to spend several hours a week with your wrist attached by cable to your computer, to get your watch to do basic things through itunes that the Samsung watch can do while you're walking around, doing other stuff?

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Chris Maunder10-Sep-13 19:59

10-Sep-13 19:59

eh? I don't follow your reasoning.

1. 1 day battery life? You have got to be kidding me.

2. iTunes syncs wirelessly.

Don't get me wrong: I hate iTunes with a burning passion. But releasing an oversixed, laggy watch with appalling battery life isn't the way you dominate a newly emerging aggressive market.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

Mark_Wallace10-Sep-13 20:19

10-Sep-13 20:19

Chris Maunder wrote:
1. 1 day battery life? You have got to be kidding me.

I don't want something like that on my wrist (unless you can attach a mouse and keyboard, because operating it with one finger would be a bloody nightmare), so I don't really care how long it needs -- but batteries are batteries; there's no iBattery with a mystically longer life.

Chris Maunder wrote:
2. iTunes syncs wirelessly.

Accent on the syncs (which, incidentally, would kill even your mythical iBattery in no time flat). If you want to do anything else, boot your computer, and get the cable out.

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Chris Maunder10-Sep-13 20:26

10-Sep-13 20:26

I don't understand:

Mark_Wallace wrote:
I don't want something like that on my wrist (unless you can attach a mouse and keyboard, because operating it with one finger would be a bloody nightmare), so I don't really care how long it needs

in relation to your initial comment:

Quote:
to get your watch to do basic things through itunes that the Samsung watch can do while you're walking around, doing other stuff?

It sounds like you just don't care about smartwatches. That's totally fine. However, I personally do care about smartwatches. I have a Pebble and use it constantly. I'm very, very much looking forward to the next generation of smartwatches and have no illusions that they will be device that is useless without a tether or mouse. They are far beyond that.

Mark_Wallace wrote:
If you want to do anything else, boot your computer, and get the cable out.

You mean like read text messages without needing to fish out my phone? Or contol my music? Or get a readout of my heartrate, speed and cadence while cycling? Have you actually used a smartwatch?

Stop thinking of a watch as a phone. I don't want a watch that's a phone. I want a watch that augments my phone, and my tablet, and my PC, and my data, wherever that data may be stored or sourced.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

Mark_Wallace10-Sep-13 20:41

10-Sep-13 20:41

Chris Maunder wrote:
I'm very, very much looking forward to the next generation of smartwatches and have no illusions that they will be device that is useless without a tether or mouse. They are far beyond that.

... But only because apple doesn't make one.

It would go completely against apple's policy and sales model to allow its users to own a device that did not require them to use (and purchase everything through) itunes. They Just Won't Do It.

Chris Maunder wrote:
You mean like read text messages without needing to fish out my phone? Or contol my music? Or get a readout of my heartrate, speed and cadence while cycling?

You can do all that without gifting apple 600 Euros.

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Chris Maunder12-Sep-13 6:09

12-Sep-13 6:09

Mark_Wallace wrote:
to allow its users to own a device that did not require them to use (and purchase everything through) itunes.

You've lost me here.

I buy songs from Amazon, or buy CDs and rip them and load them onto my iPod and iPhone all the time. Sure, I have to use iTunes, but so what? It's crap, yep, but it's free. It certainly doesn't force my to buy my stuff from any particular vendor.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

Mark_Wallace12-Sep-13 20:25

12-Sep-13 20:25

Chris Maunder wrote:
and load them onto my iPod and iPhone all the time. Sure, I have to use iTunes

That's precisely what I said. You are tied to itunes, if you want to do anything.

I don't have to use any proprietary tools to do anything with my android kit, nor do I need to ever connect it to a computer -- Hell, I can even control my phone from my computer, without any wires attached (since you've expressed a preference to not taking your phone out of your pocket, how do you like the idea of making calls and sending SMSes while it's still snuggled up getting scratched by your keys?)

We have two tablets in the house, a 600 EUR itoy3, and a 113 Euro android tablet with a lower-power chip and comparatively crappy screen, and everyone fights over the android one. Why? Because you can't do anything useful with the itoy; you can just "consume" stuff (and then only after you've been to itunes to upload/buy it).

(My law that my 32GB card has to be re-inserted into the android tablet after use has, so far, been obeyed, but I can't see that lasting.)

I don't understand why you're "defending" apple. They make great (but vastly overpriced) toys/readers/media players, which is fine, but don't try to say that they're better than useful machines.

I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

Chris Maunder13-Sep-13 3:36

13-Sep-13 3:36

Mark_Wallace wrote:
I don't understand why you're "defending" apple.

I'm not defending Apple. I'm just replying to statements you made such as "you must purchase everything through iTunes" and pouinting out that it's incorrect.

Mark_Wallace wrote:
but don't try to say that they're better than useful machines.

Please don't say I've said things that I haven't.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

MacSpudster11-Sep-13 5:38

11-Sep-13 5:38

Chris,

A wee-bit embarrassed to ask, cuz I don't know how: Unsure | :~

How does one sent a PM via CodeProject, or is there such the ability?

Thx

Chris Maunder12-Sep-13 6:14

12-Sep-13 6:14

Hit the "Email" button in the footer of a message.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

MacSpudster12-Sep-13 8:32

12-Sep-13 8:32

I was looking on the member's Profile area for such a feature/link/button...
Is there a method that way, too?

Though, not as pressing a need as much now, as I'm unable to recall the focus for utilizing such...

Chris Maunder12-Sep-13 9:51

12-Sep-13 9:51

No, only on messages.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

MacSpudster11-Sep-13 5:41

11-Sep-13 5:41

You "hate iTunes with a burning passion."

So, you don't like my work, then? Sigh | :sigh:

So sad...

NOT!

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Chris Maunder12-Sep-13 6:23

12-Sep-13 6:23

Tell you what: if you go and yell at the current team and ask them, in turn, to yell at the otehr teams and

a) fix the insane issue where everythig locks up waiting for network timeouts, and
b) bring the OS into the 20th century and not force us to click an "eject" button to unplug devices

then I'll be happier.

I find (b) to be the most unbelievable part of MacOS given Steve's tyranical insistence on simplicity for the user.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

MacSpudster12-Sep-13 8:27

12-Sep-13 8:27

OK, I'll be visiting with 1 or more team members in a few weeks (though, they dunno yet... surprise attack!).

Though, last I checked, they just don't jump into the space capsule from the ISS and go to a full throttle departure which, undoubtedly, would bring about a discontinuation of life for all involved. Cry | :((

Rather, they initial a process/procedure which includes decoupling the connections (ports) so that communication (e.g., air, etc.) is no longer synchronous (e.g., existing connection) between the ISS and space capsule headed back to earth.

Now, while we aren't working at the life-threatening level regarding the killer vacuum of space D'Oh! | :doh:

, we also don't want to present data-threatening activity to users, lest they begin shouting the product is like a vacuum via expressing "THIS SUCKS!" WTF | :WTF:

Thus, regarding the requirement to press Eject, as I'm sure you can deduce, this is due to the software (iTunes) via the OS being in synchronous communication / connection with the device. As such, it is of necessity to press Eject such that the software can then initiate the process / procedure of decoupling the device from the mothership to ensure the proverbial airlocks are properly closed so that data (or, the "air," enabling the "livelihood" of many a user) is not frustratingly lost. OMG | :OMG:

However, yes, I concur that, for tech pros like us, pressing Eject *still* SUCKS! Mad | :mad:

Chris Maunder12-Sep-13 9:52

12-Sep-13 9:52

I understand the need to ensure airlocks are closed, but I would also point at Windows and say "that doesn't require me to press an eject button". Smile | :)

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

Rage10-Sep-13 21:58

Rage

10-Sep-13 21:58

Chris Maunder wrote:
I absolutely love the idea of a fingerprint sensor. An absolute necessity not just for phones but for signing into anything in my opinion

I do not: I prefer having someone get away with my phone and crack it easily, than having him get away with my phone AND my finger.

~RaGE();

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Chris Maunder12-Sep-13 6:12