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Re: Repost of slightly altered previously removed article

5-Sep-12 3:59

And reposted: The new C++ 11 rvalue reference && and why you should start using it[^]

Espen Harlinn
Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS

Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

Pete O'Hanlon5-Sep-12 4:08

Pete O'Hanlon

5-Sep-12 4:08

I've just asked him why he keeps deleting and reposting the same article. We all know the reason why, but it will be interesting to see what he has to say.

From what I read there, it's not an improvement on the original version.

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Re: Repost of slightly altered previously removed article

Espen Harlinn5-Sep-12 10:03

Re: Repost of slightly altered previously removed article

5-Sep-12 10:03

Looks like he thinks I'm trying "get" him, so guess I've wasted a bit of time $Shucks | :-\$

Espen Harlinn
Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS

Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

Pete O'Hanlon5-Sep-12 10:17

Pete O'Hanlon

5-Sep-12 10:17

I must admit, his tactic of deleting and recreating articles to get rid of unwanted low votes is a new one on me.

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Re: Repost of slightly altered previously removed article

Espen Harlinn5-Sep-12 12:52

Re: Repost of slightly altered previously removed article

5-Sep-12 12:52

Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
I must admit, his tactic of deleting and recreating articles to get rid of unwanted low votes is a new one on me.

If it gets prevalent, somebody will probably step in and curb the practice ...

Espen Harlinn
Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS

Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

Espen Harlinn4-Sep-12 23:32

Re: Repost of slightly altered previously removed article

4-Sep-12 23:32

Richard MacCutchan wrote:
why Espen has singled this one out

The title "The new C++ operator && and why should you start using it" is OK, it's something I'd like to see more about.

When you write Right now I am trying to test those changes in CLang, you are implying that you know what you are talking about at an expert level. What Ladislav suggests ahould be implemented at the language level can, and the are many examples of this, easily be implemented at the library level.

Find the section starting with I call it Hurray stl vector<everything> trend.

Do you want destructors to be called on an object when a pointer to that object goes out of scope?

The functionality he is looking for here is already provided by shared_ptr.

We're also looking at a proposal for C++ dynamic arrays, by Lawrence Crowl and Matt Austern - which will proably get my vote.

It's highly unlikely that the language will be altered to provide for features that can reasonably be implemented at the library level.

Espen Harlinn
Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS

Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

Richard MacCutchan4-Sep-12 23:50

Richard MacCutchan

4-Sep-12 23:50

I agree with what you are saying, but I still feel that the best way to get the article improved is to enter into a discussion with the author. I have tried it today and he has made a minor change as a result.

Espen Harlinn wrote:
When you write Right now I am trying to test those changes in CLang, you are implying that you know what you are talking about at an expert level.

I guess anyone who posts an article is implying that they know what they are talking about, but the proof of that lies in the article itself. If it does not live up to its promise then it will be either voted into oblivion or ignored by the majority of readers.

One of these days I'm going to think of a really clever signature.

Re: Repost of slightly altered previously removed article

Espen Harlinn5-Sep-12 0:48

5-Sep-12 0:48

Richard MacCutchan wrote:
it will be either voted into oblivion

I would much rather see an article getting a huge number of upvotes, and it would be nice if that article was written by Ladislav.

Richard MacCutchan wrote:
enter into a discussion with the author

I believe I tried just that when he posted his initial article.

Espen Harlinn
Principal Architect, Software - Goodtech Projects & Services AS

Whenever methodologies become productized, objectivity is removed from the equation. -- Mike Myatt

"Low vote colour" bug?

Ed Nutting4-Sep-12 1:27

Re: "Low vote colour" bug?

4-Sep-12 1:27

Hi,

So recently I've been noticing that posts in any forum that receive any vote value lower than 5 end up with the silver Low Vote colour. This must be a bug. It only used to be for values < 3, wasn't it? Now it's < 5. Interestingly, if a message has no votes, it just uses the normal, un-voted colour.

Ed

(P.s. I did search this forum to try and find something else highlighting this issue but didn't find anything.)

Edit: Example here at the moment: http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4356216/Every-cloud-has-a-silver-lining.aspx[^]
Rating is 3.88 yet is has the silver low vote colour - this happens for 4 and 4.5 etc. Only absolute 5 seems to get the correct colour.

Or this one:
http://www.codeproject.com/Messages/4355262/So-coooool.aspx[^]
Rating 4.75 yet displayed in Silver.

TPFKAPB4-Sep-12 1:31

TPFKAPB

4-Sep-12 1:31

You need to adjust the 'noise' setting on the orange bar at the top of the forum. I suggest you change this to Medium.

Re: "Low vote colour" bug?

Ed Nutting4-Sep-12 1:37

Re: "Low vote colour" bug?

4-Sep-12 1:37

Erm...right... Okay so does the Noise setting set what value classes as a low vote then?

Sorry for my confusion I just didn't think I had changed any setting like this recently...perhaps I did without realising.

Anyway, thanks,
Ed

Sandeep Mewara4-Sep-12 5:42

Sandeep Mewara

4-Sep-12 5:42

Ed Nutting wrote:
I just didn't think I had changed any setting like this recently...perhaps I did without realising

I doubt if you did that. My settings too got reset, like: "notify me if someone replies my message..." OR Show only publicly available posts

I guess some change triggered these for us. OK for now, so no issues. Smile | :)

Sandeep Mewara
Microsoft ASP.NET MVP

[My latest Article]: Server side Delimiters in ASP.NET[^]

Reporting/Approving Articles

Ed Nutting4-Sep-12 1:06

4-Sep-12 1:06

I wasn't sure where to put this so Site Bugs/Suggestions seemed like a likely place to get an answer. It's been "bugging" me for a while this one so here goes:

When reporting/approving an article, why when an article has had 5 reports and doesn't get published, does it not show all five member's names who reported it? It only seems to show the names of people who are Platinum in something (or some other selection system?). Can anyone explain what is actually happening and what the logic behind it is?

Thanks,
Ed

Kenneth Haugland4-Sep-12 5:33

Kenneth Haugland

4-Sep-12 5:33

No sure exactly, but Chris seems to say that an article is live once 5 platinum members have approved it:
http://www.codeproject.com/Members/Chris-Maunder?msg=4181355#xx4181355xx[^]

Ed Nutting4-Sep-12 5:39

4-Sep-12 5:39

No I know how the approvals work - something is published once 5 Editors approve it (not necessarily Platinum - look up the rankings).

What I was wondering was why, when an article is NOT approved, it puts a message at the top saying "This item was closed....by [Editors who reported names]", except that the editors name only usually include 2 or 3 members and only Platinum ones, yet to have been closed/rejected it must have had at least 5 reports. It seems very odd to me...

Thanks anyway,
Ed

Kenneth Haugland4-Sep-12 5:44

Kenneth Haugland

4-Sep-12 5:44

Quote:
not necessarily Platinum - look up the rankings

How can you find out who approved your article?

Ed Nutting4-Sep-12 5:47

4-Sep-12 5:47

As far as I'm aware you can't - it's an anonymous approval system (which is good).

As per the bug I've reported, you can only find out which Platinum members rejected your article (should that be the case).

Ed

Sean Ewington4-Sep-12 6:02

Sean Ewington

4-Sep-12 6:02

Sometimes that's me swooping in to help the flow of the Articles Needing Approval queue. Usually in those cases I am also emailing the author on steps to take to improve, different arena for posting, etc.

Thanks,
Sean Ewington
The Code Project