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Paul van der Walt wrote:
not set in concrete that we should (implement them || get them implemented), but these people haven't even given good reasons for voting badly for these suggestions
Yes, exactly. This is what I feel bad about it too. If someone didn't like it they could have atleast told me which part they didn't like so much that they thought it best to vote a 1. People have not given any reason, let alone good ones. I mean it's not like I was trolling, or the message proved I am an idiot (now wait a minute...  )...
Paul van der Walt wrote:
Anyway - maybe we should like post comments with our ratings
Yeah, maybe. But let's not get too involved with the ratings, just shrug and move on. 
Regards,
Rohit Sinha
Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
- Abraham Lincoln
The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
- Anonymous
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Hey Chris,
Just seen this on MSDN - see this page[^]. Their rating system looks really cool cause you can see a graph of how many people gave it each rating. This means that, on that particular page, you can see that clearly some jokers have given it a 1, and just ignore that and see the higher ratings are more important; thought it might be kidna cool for the article rating system to have a similar graph available, if that's possible?
Also, a quickie - I was wondering if it might make it easier for users if, when you clicked on link or link[^] on the message editor toolbar, it would select the text that will be visible so you can overtype it and name the link how you want?
Just a couple of deas that I'm sorry to bog you down with but that may be pretty cool .
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Andrew.
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I've seen it - but does it actually provide you with valuable information and how would this work with our current weighted voting? A vote of '5' by a new member doesn't count as much as a vote of 3 by a platinum member so the graph would be a little disingenius.
Andrew Peace wrote:
Also, a quickie - I was wondering if it might make it easier for users if, when you clicked on link or link[^] on the message editor toolbar, it would select the text that will be visible so you can overtype it and name the link how you want?
I've gotta redo the whole message composition window.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
I've seen it - but does it actually provide you with valuable information
Do we really need valuable information or percieved valuable information.
Regardz
Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign'
Rob Manderson wrote:
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hmmmmm. Good point.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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A way to incite CPians to post articles
could be to use the human desire for differentiation:
There could be a specific icon associated to the article writers, as there's one for the supporters. This icon would be awarded when at least one article is edited.
A variation of this concept is to use the human desire for competition, by awarding different colors to the "writer icon", according to the number of edited articles (bronze, silver, gold, platinum, as usual)
Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons
Cowboy Bebop
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That's a wonderful idea Karl! Now let me start writing an article I've been meaning to write but been putting off.
And may I also suggest introducing a "Diamond" category, for those who have written an exceptionally high number of articles, like Chris and Nish? I mean you can become a platinum after 25 articles. But 90+ articles and still platinum?
Regards,
Rohit Sinha
Character is like a tree, and reputation like its shadow. The shadow is what we think of it; the tree is the real thing.
- Abraham Lincoln
The whole world steps aside for the man who knows where he is going.
- Anonymous
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What is wrong with just the desire to post articles because you've something to share. I'd hope that most of the people who contribute to CP aren't so shallow as to post just to get a different icon.
Michael
Wonder Woman, Wonder Woman.
All the world's waiting for you,
and the power you possess.
In your satin tights,
Fighting for your rights
And the old Red, White and Blue.
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Michael P Butler wrote:
I'd hope that most of the people who contribute to CP aren't so shallow as to post just to get a different icon.
*cough*
Maybe I'm that shallow.
On another note though Michael, with my employers hat on.
If at an interview an applicant noted that they had posted articles on a site such as CP, I would be very interested as to there quality and quantity.
It would shadow my judgements heavily in making a decision.
Regardz
Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign'
Rob Manderson wrote:
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CP would have succeeded where communism failed 
Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons
Cowboy Bebop
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Nice.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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I just don't want to put in perspective 250,000 people posting a crappy article just to get their icon.
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That's why I said "This icon would be awarded when at least one article is edited"
The edition process guarantees a certain level of quality, doesn't it ?
Angels banished from heaven have no choice but to become demons
Cowboy Bebop
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A certain level - but that level isn't A grade. That level is "it's readable, it makes sense, it doesn't contain unacceptable content and it's in a form where the community can now discuss the merits of the article, not the merits of the capitalisation used".
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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I love rating, for me it's one of the reasons to improve or to submit an article.
I read some laments about unjustified low ratings, and I'm a victim too 
I'd like to advance this solution:
Only Silver, Gold and Platinum members can rate an article
Because:
1) as in real communities, only majors can vote.
2) the most voted article has only 418 votes, despite the 250000 members, so this will not affect the ammount of votes
3) no one can create a fake account just to pull down an article or to rise his own ratings.
Best Regards
Davide Pizzolato
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Or how about showing the average voted by each level of membership:
Platinum members average: 5.0
Gold members average : 4.9
Silver:...
Bronze:...
Roger Allen
Sonork 100.10016
Were you different as a kid? Did you ever say "Ooohhh, shiny red" even once? - Paul Watson 11-February-2003
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Roger Allen wrote:
Or how about showing the average voted by each level of membership:
Platinum members average: 5.0
Gold members average : 4.9
Silver:...
Bronze:...
This is a BRILLIANT suggestion Roger. Chris, what do you say?
Nish
Author of the romantic comedy
Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win]
Review by Shog9
Click here for review[NW]
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Here are the results (a couple of weeks old)
Level Average
Platinum 3.0
Gold 3.4
Silver 3.6
Bronze 3.8
It just shows that the higher level a member is, the more fussy they are. The spread isn't that much though so all it says is 'on average people vote about 3.5'
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Chris Maunder wrote:
Here are the results (a couple of weeks old)
Really intriguing stats those.
What would also be interesting to see is how many 1's 2's 3's 4s 5s were awarded.
Does anyone award a 3 ?
Regardz
Colin J Davies
Sonork ID 100.9197:Colin
I'm guessing the concept of a 2 hour movie showing two guys eating a meal and talking struck them as 'foreign'
Rob Manderson wrote:
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I would like to suggest hosting lightweight project foundries a la sourceforge.net[^]. There are a couple of things that I'd like to begin that require more expertise or energy than I have, but I don't want to go through the hassle of starting a sf.net project.
Any ideas? Has this already been suggested and dismissed?
α.γεεκ Fortune passes everywhere.
Duke Leto Atreides
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You can add an article using the submission wizard and mark it as 'do not move' (add the comment at the end of the article text). That way you'll always be able to update. You can also add as many people as you want to the author's list so it should be simple to have collaboration.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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I dont know if this exists or doesnt or whatever, but the forums definately need search capability. There is no point in going through pages and pages and pages and pages of forum discussions just to find out that no one ever asked this question or posting a question that has been asked many times more.
So.... to make my story short, the forums need a way to search them just like the articles have their own search. If they do have a search, please someone tell me where it is because i couldnt find it.
MoMad the NoMad
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Have you tred the 'search comments' link next to the 'Set Options' button at the top of the forums?
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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No, but now that Ive tried it, its exactly what i was looking for.
Would it be possible to make it read: "Search Message Boards" instead... because Search Comments doesnt say much in terms of what the search actually does, or thats just my opinion.
Thanks very much for pointing me in the right direction.
MoMad the NoMad
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