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I remember when the ribbon first came out in Office. I did not like it but after using it I found it much better than the toolbar.
I do not like the Metro UI now but who knows, after using it for some time, it may work great.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I believe what you say is more about getting used to an interface... obviously, if you use something for long enough you start liking it...
I remember working with excel on Office Xp and change to 2007 was not easy... esp. if you have to go hunting for the simple options that you knew existed at one click before
Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality!!!
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ryanb31 wrote: I remember when the ribbon first came out in Office. I did not like it but after using it I found it much better than the toolbar.
Toolbars suck too. Give me a menubar, don't move the freaking menus around, because when I use something like Word, I want to be spending my time writing the document, not figuring out where the heck the "convert to table" feature went. I should be able to do this without moving my hand off the keyboard to the mouse. I should be able to do this without interrupting my flow of thoughts to deal with the UI.
As far as I'm concerned, people at Microsoft (and every else, for that matter) have lost all concept of what usability means.
Marc
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I had the same initial reaction to the ribbon and wound up preferring it. As to Metro, I've loved it since the first time I saw it back before Windows Phone was released. Using it on a PC has been a delightful experience.
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Wow. I don't hear many people say they like it on a pc. There is so much hatred towards Microsoft for doing it now, I wonder what it will be like in 2 years, we will still hate it or will everyone think it is great? It will be interesting.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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ryanb31 wrote: I don't hear many people say they like it on a pc.
I wonder how many of those people used it for any length of time before saying they didn't like it.
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The main problem I have with Metro is that unless you are using a device with a touch screen, the UI is basically annoying. I personally would have enjoyed icons turning into 3D representations on the desktop instead of flat blocks with some text that resemble a child's puzzle. For a phone or tablet it's fine IMO, but for a desktop no.
Make the screen resemble a 3D box and the icons could be 3D animated glyph's rotating in space or something.
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I still prefer sensible dropdown menus to the bloated space waster that is the ribbon. Give me succinct text rather than an icon that I have to play guessing games with.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Q: Love or hate?
A: yes / undecided / no
Yes I hate it or no I don't love it.
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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I suspect that on a touchscreen: a phone, or a tablet it'll work fine.
On my monitor? Elephant that! Do I need icons the size of small buses in order to get a mouse to them? No, no, I don't...
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Metro is awesome when it is talked from the perspective of Windows Phone.
Metro is awesome when talked from perspective of Naive Users.
But is not good If we are trying to work as a Software developer and perhaps that is why everyone is saying "NO".
Anyone agrees?
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I agree that it may be mostly developers having a hard time with it. Just like people saying that the tablet will replace the PC in 2 years. I can't imagine trying to develop on a tablet. I need the mouse, keyboard, multiple monitors, etc.
There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.
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I disagree. After all, you don't have to develop for Metro (unless you're going to target WOA). The desktop is still there, you just have a different mechanism for launching apps and a new option (Metro and WinRT) for writing them.
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Never paid attention what pattern does Microsoft uses....
(and a secret,actually never heard about Metro shhh!  )
Many things available on CP... Rarely visit Microsoft website 
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Good morning,
Is microsoft metro is identy ribbon bar all people is used this tecnologia.
Sorry my read english.
At.
Polinia
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No.
Metro is the new UI MS are seemingly basing Windows 8 on. The Ribbon is a different thing altogether.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metro_(design_language)[^] About half way down, there are examples of the UI.
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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What does it look like?
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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ChrisElston wrote: What does it look like?
Your job 
Panic, Chaos, Destruction. My work here is done.
Drink. Get drunk. Fall over - P O'H
OK, I will win to day or my name isn't Ethel Crudacre! - DD Ethel Crudacre
I cannot live by bread alone. Bacon and ketchup are needed as well. - Trollslayer
Have a bit more patience with newbies. Of course some of them act dumb - they're often *students*, for heaven's sake - Terry Pratchett
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Depressing, pointless, with no support and no obvious future?
Every man can tell how many goats or sheep he possesses, but not how many friends.
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I really don't have anything against the design itself, the problem is that Microsoft lacks navigation guidance, making it hard to know where exactly you are in the OS or in the application. (based on Zune en Windows Phone 7) I had trouble finding out how to exactly do something.
V.
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Horrible, it looks like it was designed for people who cannot read, and need symbols so they know what to do.
Ghastly to look at, and Unweildy[^] according to El Reg!
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well said.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
"It is the celestial scrotum of good luck!" - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
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I can understand wanting this on a mobile device however on a desktop without touch I really hate the extremely large icon look.
John
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Agreed.
For our needs as developers, web-masters, programmers etc it is clumsy and 'blocky' and has not the refinement that we need.
I think that it is being pushed at MS and none dare speak against it.
If Bill were still there he would probably have an input.
I understand why they would try to make life easier for the Muggles, but why alientate the professionals?
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I will never again mention that I was the poster of the One Millionth Lounge Post, nor that it was complete drivel. Dalek Dave
CCC Link[ ^]
English League Tables - Live
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