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BillWoodruff wrote: Ideally, I'd like to see very high-technical rep members (that rep not including Lounge rep points) be able to put a hold on any answers being given to a question until the OP answers a question in a comment that is vital to grasping what the question even ... is.
I have already put in place a reporting system that allows many, many members to simply report questions poorly phrased as just that. If more people vote to close questions that show zero effort then we'd have these questions gone, and you'd end up with more of the correct form of example for others to post by.
Putting a hold doesn't really help because while one person puts a hold, another may actually understand the question and can then provide an answer (I've seen this many times). I, personally, would rather see questions that are phrased with no consideration for others' time and effort simply be removed. If you don't care enough to make an effort to phrase your problem intelligently then don't expect an intelligent answer. In fact, don't expect an answer at all.
On the topic of Lounge rep points (Debator points) these do not come into considering when giving people the power to close questions. I have very deliberately created a points system that awards members based on what they do, and provides extra powers on that same basis. The FAQ[^] explains the different types of points for each activity.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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One of the issues, which I raised once before, is that the edit screen for a new question is the first thing the user sees when clicking "Ask a Question". Perhaps it would be better if the first thing the poster saw was the list of rules, and then had to scroll down to actually enter the question.
Unrequited desire is character building. OriginalGriff
I'm sitting here giving you a standing ovation - Len Goodman
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Chris Maunder wrote: I have already put in place a reporting system that allows many, many members to simply report questions poorly phrased as just that. If more people vote to close questions that show zero effort then we'd have these questions gone, and you'd end up with more of the correct form of example for others to post by.
Hi Chris, yes, I am aware I can red-flag questions, but here, in my way of thinking is the "Catch-22" there:
1. Many people, including me, are willing to work with people for whom, obviously, English is not their native language, and whose questions are obscure, confused, because of lack of language mastery. Having spent going on now 13 years of my adult life living in countries where English was not the mother-tongue, and having known what it's like to teach English to non-native speakers, I think I have a lot of patience in this area.
2. Posting, in simple language, in a comment, detailed questions designed to help the author of the "obscure" question clarify the question:
... for example see my comment here:[^]
... even being willing to have a dialog, via comments, until the question is clarified is, I think, a good thing, for those of us who are willing to do this. Just as valuable, if not more valuable, than the countless minor edits that are being done of the questions (which are, of course, valuable, also).
But, that does not deal with the issue of getting just the basic tags you need to focus the question ... into the question: when it's first posted.
I believe even the most limited speakers of English, when they post a question know whether they are using C# WinForms, or WPF, SilverLight, or ASP.NET; they know if their question is about something do with databases, or something to do with UserControls, or AJAX, or JavaScript.
My proposal focuses on what can be asked of the questioner in a simple way that's non intrusive, that does not penalize them for lack of English language skills: a way that you already use in many other places in the web, when you fill out forms with required and optional fields.
I am very reluctant to ever 'red flag' a post, and I suspect that the CP norm is very infrequent red-flagging.
Of course you are very right: the issue of putting a hold on a question is "sticky."
Requiring the questioner to spend thirty seconds of their time to select appropriate tags, in my opinion, makes that undesirable option irrelevant.
My apologies for having incorrectly implied a generalization between Lounge-earned points, and certain "powers" based on points earned non-Lounge.
best, Bill
"Anyone who shows me my 'blind spots' gives me the gift of sight." ... a thought from the shallows of the deeply shallow mind of ... Bill
modified 28-Nov-11 6:20am.
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I notice most of these "questions" (In quotes, since many aren't) have less than 100 characters. I almost wonder if entry length needs to play a role.
I know, I know... people will just add "plase plese plase please please answer soon i n33d the codes now thank you in avance god bless you all".
I guess I just share your frustration. I take time I could be spending on paying clients' work to answer questions because I want to give something back. Many posters don't get that.
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Today I noticed, I received Email Notification of my own comments posted on Code Project in Question-Answer section. Is this an additional feature or Bug, I am not sure.
Just wanted to inform about this to Code Project. 
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I was about the mention the same thing!
I posted a reply to a reply to my answer to a question, and received an email to tell me.
Every time I press one of these all black switches, which are labelled in black on a black background, a small black light lights up black to let me know I've done it...
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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Thanks Ford.
I'll make a note to get this fixed.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Like you and Griff I was also going to post about that 
It's an OO world.
public class Naerling : Lazy<Person>{
public void DoWork(){ throw new NotImplementedException(); }
}
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This should be fixed now.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Thanks Chris.
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I know it kinda flies in the face of what we really want to do here, but maybe implementing a 72-hour delay in posting permission for new users would go a long way to avoiding the new-user spamming we've been seeing the last few days.
Alternatively (and/or additionally), disallowing posting ANY message with HTML, or a even a url as plain text for users with fewer than N rep points and/or tenure on the site. At a bare minimum, this would mitigate their true aim which is to propagate their spam URLs.
You could also automatically ban people that post nothing but a series of URLs without having a sufficient number of rep points and/or tenure on the site.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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I am all for most probationary tactics for new users. As they contribute, the restrictions fall away. Good suggestion.
Just along for the ride.
"the meat from that butcher is just the dogs danglies, absolutely amazing cuts of beef." - DaveAuld (2011)
"No, that is just the earthly manifestation of the Great God Retardon." - Nagy Vilmos (2011)
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I'm not too sure about that - sometimes a link to an image in Q&A is really helpful. And many people only register when they have a question they want to ask.
I can't help feeling that that would punish the innocent more than it would harm the guilty.
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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OriginalGriff wrote: I can't help feeling that that would punish the innocent more than it would harm the guilty.
But the spammers are keen to exploit this kind of charitable attitude. I agree, it's too bad we have to consider a move like this, but in the absence of any proactive spam elimination methodology, I think this is the only viable approach. I have never been a big fan of saying "oh well, we have to put up with this abuse".
For a new user, the ability to post a link is NOT what I would call a vital feature.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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"Why don't you tie a kerosene-soaked rag around your ankles so the ants won't climb up and eat your candy ass." - Dale Earnhardt, 1997
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John Simmons / outlaw programmer wrote: I have never been a big fan of saying "oh well, we have to put up with this abuse"
Nor have I - it is a problem from time to time - but I'm also reluctant to use the only weapon which would be effective: DOS attacks on the link target... 
Ideological Purity is no substitute for being able to stick your thumb down a pipe to stop the water
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OriginalGriff wrote: And many people only register when they have a question they want to ask.
I completely agree with this point, that's the only reason I signed up a long time ago... because I needed help with something, if they can't post for a period of time, that won't sit too well with a lot of people (would probably encourage them to find alternatives).
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Penalising new members for the sake of a few bad apples helps no one.
a) it pissed off new members. Actually, no it doesn't, it simply says "go away".
b) Think about the hoops that spammers already go through. They sign up, in some cases they confirm their email address, and then they find forums, Quick Answers, and now even tips and work out how to post their spam. Waiting 3 days isn't much of a deterrent. Set up the accounts one weekend then go nuts the next.
On top of this you may have noticed that a ton of spam has come from compromised accounts.
I think awarding you guys Spam Hunter badges is the way to go.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: I think awarding you guys Spam Hunter badges is the way to go.
Could we get a Reputation Point Crybaby badge too? If you say 'Yes'... I will commit to writing the bayesian probability module that detects and nukes the SPAM messages... as well as automatically granting the reputation crybaby badge. 
Best Wishes,
-David Delaune
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Deal!
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: I think awarding you guys Spam Hunter badges is the way to go.
Like this?[^]
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Nice
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Something bad happened
We're not sure what, but we have a few guesses.
Problem: Access to the path 'Root\appsettings.config' is denied.
Ticket: 5105142
Server: Web03
// ♫ 99 little bugs in the code,
// 99 bugs in the code
// We fix a bug, compile it again
// 101 little bugs in the code ♫
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I just kicked all the servers as part of an update and that happens occasionally. It's an old error that we've tried everything under the sun to work around (yes, especially the bleeding obvious...) but after a meeting yesterday we may have another potential solution. We'll find out in a few days.
An odd, harmless, but extremely annoying (and impossible to replicate on demand) bug.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: An odd, harmless, but extremely annoying (and impossible to replicate on demand) bug.
I have one of those bugs, it is called the wife. 
(hope she doesn't read this or the harmless bit might change.)
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Why would you want to replicate the wife? Are you thinking of converting to Mormanism?
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