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Re: Think about what's important Navin9-Dec-02 6:47 Navin 9-Dec-02 6:47  Actually, Michael Dell would be interesting. Dell rapidly became the number one computing vender, on the relatively simple model of selling direct instead of going through the retail channels. That seems like something that could have easily flopped, but it ended up working quite well. Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Re: Think about what's important Chris Maunder9-Dec-02 7:04 Chris Maunder 9-Dec-02 7:04  Yep - he would have been my #2 cheers, Chris Maunder Re: Think about what's important Junkie10-Dec-02 23:50 Junkie 10-Dec-02 23:50  If Michael agrees, I can pay for the dinner. "* Code till death *" http://www.askarya.com Re: Think about what's important Christian Graus9-Dec-02 10:33 Christian Graus 9-Dec-02 10:33  Chris Maunder wrote: I'd love to find out how they managed to deal with scalability, security, decisions on direction, priority balancing, payments and escrow, insurance, etc etc etc Badly. Did you use ebay early on ? Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002 Re: Think about what's important Chris Maunder9-Dec-02 10:39 Chris Maunder 9-Dec-02 10:39  Christian Graus wrote: Badly. Did you use ebay early on ? Exactly! They've made the mistakes and learned from them. cheers, Chris Maunder Re: Think about what's important Christian Graus9-Dec-02 10:47 Christian Graus 9-Dec-02 10:47  I guess I'd just hate you to talk to her because their model is one of no customer service, no contact with users except to annoy, attack or sue them. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002 Re: Think about what's important Paul Watson9-Dec-02 20:36 Paul Watson 9-Dec-02 20:36  Christian Graus wrote: I guess I'd just hate you to talk to her because their model is one of no customer service, no contact with users except to annoy, attack or sue them. But that IMO is part of the brilliance. EBay is just this virtual space provided with no strings attached. People, you, me, Chris, Bob Marley, etc. then come in and form what EBay is. We generate the community, we enforce and percolate the rules. If EBay admin interfered all the time then a lot of that emergent behavouir would not, well, emerge. Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Christopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately) Re: Think about what's important Christian Graus9-Dec-02 20:55 Christian Graus 9-Dec-02 20:55  But they DO interfere. Example 1: I was selling legitimate Microsoft software. Microsoft claimed otherwise, with no proof ( how could they have proof ) and all my auctions where closed and the bidders emailed to say I was a pirate. I was given no chance to defend myself. They said they would reinstate my auctions after Microsoft agreed that my auctions were legal. I wrote to the Microsoft address provided, they did not reply. Example 2: A guy posted a lot of auctions for DVD's, and it soon became clear that he did so solely to generate a lot of sales and keep the money. I posted in the forums to warn people and was told off by ebay staff. Example 3: ebay is rife with pirated DVD's. I have tried to bring some of these auctions to ebay's attention, they wrote back and told me to pull my head in. Christian No offense, but I don't really want to encourage the creation of another VB developer. - Larry Antram 22 Oct 2002 C# will attract all comers, where VB is for IT Journalists and managers - Michael P Butler 05-12-2002 Again, you can screw up a C/C++ program just as easily as a VB program. OK, maybe not as easily, but it's certainly doable. - Jamie Nordmeyer - 15-Nov-2002 Re: Think about what's important David Wulff9-Dec-02 11:41 David Wulff 9-Dec-02 11:41  Chris Maunder wrote: My choice: Meg Whitman Oh my god - I chose Meg too for exactly the same reasons - simple but sucessfull, just what everybody is trying to find. "It works." David Wulff http://www.davidwulff.co.uk Live for today and die tomorrow. Re: Think about what's important Paul Watson9-Dec-02 20:31 Paul Watson 9-Dec-02 20:31  Chris Maunder wrote: My choice Steve Jobs CEO, Apple. That man, and that company, is about quality and dedication to simple principles. There is a reason why Apple fans are such fans. Most of us Microsoft users are rather pathetic in our view of MS (as shown by another post here saying he only uses MS because he has to) and would jump ship the moment something more economically viable came along (not everyone of course, but a lot of us.) I want to know how uncompromising quality can be turned into a profitable company. And lets face it, Apple design rocks and Steve Jobs must be fostering that. From a web dev point of view though I would like to have dinner with Jefrey Zeldman of Zeldman.com fame. Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa Christopher Duncan wrote: Which explains why when Santa asked, "And what do you want for Christmas, little boy?" I said, "A life." (Accesories sold separately) Re: Think about what's important Noam Ben Haim9-Dec-02 21:51 Noam Ben Haim 9-Dec-02 21:51  well, I was voting for Craig Barrett, and not because I work for him, but because Intel is doing things in the most interesting direction (IMHO) in the field today - Clustering for HPC. the Hyper-Threading idea is one way in that direction, and Intel getting 50+ places in the Top 500 super computers is another,and I wanted to hear his opinion on what will be next. N Noam Ben Haim Web Developer Intel noam.ben.chaim@intel.com Re: Think about what's important Paul Selormey10-Dec-02 0:09 Paul Selormey 10-Dec-02 0:09  It depends on what dinner mean to you; a business opportunity or a bit of fun. I go in for fun and will prefer a lady to brighten my day/night with beautiful smile. Best regards, Paul. Jesus Christ is LOVE! Please tell somebody. Fess up... peterchen9-Dec-02 5:40 peterchen 9-Dec-02 5:40  Who of you wrote this: 3) I want Erica Wiechers as an Office Assistant in the .NET IDE!!! "It looks like you're trying to write a Web Service." (one of the comments for one of the .NET shows...) I like the idea. If I could find a souvenir / just to prove the world was here   [sighist] Re: Fess up... #realJSOP9-Dec-02 5:55 #realJSOP 9-Dec-02 5:55  They forgot a critical part. At the end, she should ask "Do you want to see my bare perky breasts?" ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends Re: Fess up... Jim Crafton9-Dec-02 10:36 Jim Crafton 9-Dec-02 10:36  Or better yet, how about having her gradually remove clothing during a build? Definitely encouragment to "Rebuild All" ! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! Re: Fess up... Kannan Kalyanaraman9-Dec-02 20:18 Kannan Kalyanaraman 9-Dec-02 20:18  LOL that was really funny particularly the Rebuild all option Cheers Kannan Almost missed... Matt Newman9-Dec-02 5:34 Matt Newman 9-Dec-02 5:34  the last option - Matt Newman / Windows XP Activist "Well, the guy that's giving you a hard time is a f***in moron, and you can tell him thats straight from another Linux user." - John Simmons on Linux Users Just do the American thing and shoot him... - Jim Crafton on Linux Users Wh3n my l33t skillz 1mpr0v3, I w1ll h4ck M$, 4nd th3n wh0 w1ll b3 l4ugh1ng ? N0t Bill. H4 h4 h4 h4 h4 h4 h4. - Christian Graus Interesting survey... Mauricio Ritter9-Dec-02 4:46 Mauricio Ritter 9-Dec-02 4:46  ...we should another one with CP celebrities (maybe the most active ones). That would be interesting... Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter "Th@ langwagje is screwed! It has if's but no end if's!! Stupid php cant even do butuns on forms! VISHAUL BASICS ARE THE FUTSHURE!" - Simon Walton Re: Interesting survey... Daniel Turini9-Dec-02 4:56 Daniel Turini 9-Dec-02 4:56  A dinner with John Simmons ? I see dumb people Re: Interesting survey... Andreas Saurwein9-Dec-02 4:59 Andreas Saurwein 9-Dec-02 4:59  what about Bill S. ?? Could be interesting. I don't think this is a serious possesion, and the evil most likely comes from your hand. Colin J Davies, The Lounge Re: Interesting survey... Mauricio Ritter9-Dec-02 5:14 Mauricio Ritter 9-Dec-02 5:14  Andreas Saurwein wrote: what about Bill S. ?? Mauricio Ritter - Brazil Sonorking now: 100.13560 MRitter "Th@ langwagje is screwed! It has if's but no end if's!! Stupid php cant even do butuns on forms! VISHAUL BASICS ARE THE FUTSHURE!" - Simon Walton Re: Interesting survey... Daniel Turini9-Dec-02 5:35 Daniel Turini 9-Dec-02 5:35  Andreas Saurwein wrote: what about Bill S. ?? Could be interesting. What? At the END OF THE DINNER, you'd PAY HIM THE DINNER AND GIVE HIM ALL YOUR MONEY! And he would SHOW YOU HOW TO EAT 5,000 POUNDS OF FOOD IN 0 SECONDS!!! YES!!! IN 0 SECONDS!! NO MFC KNOWLEDGE REQUIRED!! I see dumb people Re: Interesting survey... Anna-Jayne Metcalfe10-Dec-02 22:55 Anna-Jayne Metcalfe 10-Dec-02 22:55  Only if I can bring a BIG HAMMER. Anna www.annasplace.me.uk "Be yourself - not what others think you should be" - Marcia Graesch Trouble with resource IDs? Try the Resource ID Organiser Add-In for Visual C++ Re: Interesting survey... #realJSOP9-Dec-02 5:27 #realJSOP 9-Dec-02 5:27  At least nobody would give you grief if you burped or farted at the table. Oh yeah, go ahead and put your elbows on the table, chew with your mouth open, and pick your teeth with a butter knife. Andif someone tells an especially funny story or joke, don't be embarassed if you pass a mouthful of food through your nose due to insanely strenuous laughter. Nobody will care more than to identify any non-food substances that were extruded onto your plate. ------- signature starts "...the staggering layers of obscenity in your statement make it a work of art on so many levels." - Jason Jystad, 10/26/2001 Please review the Legal Disclaimer in my bio. ------- signature ends Re: Interesting survey... Daniel Turini9-Dec-02 5:42 Daniel Turini 9-Dec-02 5:42  It's good to see you back I see dumb people

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