Bugs and Suggestions

13-Aug-10 10:57

The example given by the OP is a good one. It is a call stack. Stuff like that isn't worth adjusting line breaks to, and can actually make it more difficult to read. You scroll vertically review the important data in each line, then you can scroll horizontally to see more specific information (e.g., line number). A table of data would be another good example. Sometimes horizontal scrolling is useful.

Luc Pattyn wrote:
Avoid 10-level indentation nestings.

Sometimes, that cannot be avoided, such as with complex XSLT.

Re: Unviewable message text due to lack of horizontal scrolling or proper wrapping

Luc Pattyn13-Aug-10 11:01

Luc Pattyn

13-Aug-10 11:01

aspdotnetdev wrote:
Sometimes horizontal scrolling is useful.

yes, when all else fails, it could be useful I guess.

aspdotnetdev wrote:
Sometimes, that cannot be avoided, such as with complex XSLT.

never had the pleasure.

Smile | :)

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Re: Unviewable message text due to lack of horizontal scrolling or proper wrapping

AspDotNetDev13-Aug-10 11:01

13-Aug-10 11:01

Testing scrollbars...

Begin_AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA_End
Begin_AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA_End


Begin_AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA_End

Begin_AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA_End

Ah yes, very nice. Note to self: always use horizontal scrollbars when replying to Luc. Poke tongue | ;-P

Re: Unviewable message text due to lack of horizontal scrolling or proper wrapping

AspDotNetDev13-Aug-10 11:02

13-Aug-10 11:02

Dang, the scrollbars only worked in the preview. Let me see if this works:

Testing scrollbars...

Begin_AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA_End
Begin_AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA_End


Begin_AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA_End

Begin_AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA_End

Re: Unviewable message text due to lack of horizontal scrolling or proper wrapping

AspDotNetDev13-Aug-10 11:04

13-Aug-10 11:04

Dang, it wanted to work, but it didn't quite get there.

Re: Unviewable message text due to lack of horizontal scrolling or proper wrapping

Luc Pattyn13-Aug-10 11:05

Luc Pattyn

13-Aug-10 11:05

the mail notification had a hor. scroll bar; the above message on CP does not (FF3), but then that could depend on some settings.

BTW: while posting that, didn't you get a little message box asking "this message seems rather wide and uninformative. Do you really want to post it?"

Smile | :)

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Re: Unviewable message text due to lack of horizontal scrolling or proper wrapping

AspDotNetDev13-Aug-10 13:29

13-Aug-10 13:29

Luc Pattyn wrote:
didn't you get a little message box asking "this message seems rather wide and uninformative. Do you really want to post it?"

It got you to inform me that the scrollbars show up in email notifications. Seems informative enough. Smile | :)

Re: Unviewable message text due to lack of horizontal scrolling or proper wrapping

John Whitmire12-Aug-10 9:01

John Whitmire

12-Aug-10 9:01

Apparently IE8 handles it better. I still have IE7, and there is no scroll bar. Upgrading to IE8 is not yet an allowed option.

I failed to mention that the area for message display does resize with the browser window, but the text width still matches the width of the PRE section. If the code lines are really long, like your example, they and the text outside the PRE tag get irretrievably chopped off at the column margin for the message list. I have a scroll bar for viewing all of your message as I type this reply, but in the regular display, I don't.

Re: Unviewable message text due to lack of horizontal scrolling or proper wrapping

Chris Maunder20-Aug-10 8:20

Chris Maunder

20-Aug-10 8:20

Unfortunately you're seeing problems with IE7's non standard rendering. FireFox, Chrome, Safari, IE8 all do the right thing, but getting IE7 to play properly, while not also breaking for the others, is painful and sanity shredding.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

Robots for Prizes

Robot Geek12-Aug-10 4:36

Robot Geek

12-Aug-10 4:36

This is for Chris Smile | :)

We have wanted to donate robots to the best article prize pool for sometime. We are robot geeks and figured code project code geeks would love to win robots. I posted the question in the lounge to get some feedback. The response was pretty positive and the community suggested I put the idea in front of the man in charge so that is what I'm doing Smile | :)

Here is the thread:
http://www.codeproject.com/Lounge.aspx?msg=3561365#xx3561365xx[^]

If anyone else in here likes the idea, time to speak up is now :P

I can be reached at:
matt
thing-above-the-two
trossenrobotics.com

Re: Robots for Prizes

Dalek Dave12-Aug-10 4:40

Dalek Dave

12-Aug-10 4:40

For those with proper non american keyboards, I shall translate...Thing above the Apostrophe Smile | :)

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Re: Robots for Prizes

Chris Maunder17-Aug-10 2:44

Chris Maunder

17-Aug-10 2:44

You'd like to donate robots? That's the coolest thing. Ever.

Sorry for the delay, I've just arrived home after a vacation. I'll send you an email and we'll work out the fine print.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP

Quick Answers Comments RSS Link Error

AspDotNetDev11-Aug-10 17:43

11-Aug-10 17:43

When I clicked "Comments RSS" on the right of this question, I got the following error:

Error System Reported:
An Error Occurred
Ticket: (No ticket provided - possibly an error in the error-system)
Error: An error occurred in this page. The error has been recorded and the site administrator informed.

Re: Quick Answers Comments RSS Link Error

Thiru Thirunavukarasu12-Aug-10 5:03

Re: Quick Answers Comments RSS Link Error

12-Aug-10 5:03

Yep verified it. I'll add it to bug list.

Tom Deketelaere12-Aug-10 21:45

Tom Deketelaere

12-Aug-10 21:45

Hmmm I thought this was fixed already[^]

Chris lied to me, no my whole world is falling apart now. Or was it the hamsters who posted in his name, damn those little evil creatures got me again.

Categories in Tips/Tricks

#realJSOP11-Aug-10 5:11

#realJSOP

11-Aug-10 5:11

Are you guys gonna implement this? I hate having to come and ask you to move stuff around. The following needs to be put under Silverlight.

http://www.codeproject.com/Tips/101061/Get-Mouse-Click-relative-Position.aspx[^]

Also, the automatic CP link thing still isn't working for tip/trick links.

Thiru Thirunavukarasu12-Aug-10 4:58

12-Aug-10 4:58

I've placed it under Silverlight but you should be able to do this as well.

I'll make a bug note about the auto-linking.

#realJSOP12-Aug-10 14:43

#realJSOP

12-Aug-10 14:43

I've looked several times, and I don't see any place to set a category. It used to be there, but I haven't seen it for the last couple to tips.

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Thiru Thirunavukarasu16-Aug-10 4:57

16-Aug-10 4:57

You must be using IE 6 Wink | ;)

I'll try and get that fixed shortly.

Thiru Thirunavukarasu16-Aug-10 6:02

Mobile version for Minefield

16-Aug-10 6:02

Okay I've fixed it locally. It should be good next time Chris updates the site.

13xforever9-Aug-10 18:30

13xforever

9-Aug-10 18:30

I'm tired to see mobile version of site every time I visit it with Firefox nightlies (aka Minefield).
Worse yet, every time I do anything (like voting on poll, going to link) it resets to mobile version and I have to click Full site to see normal page.
Honestly, I have no idea why Minefield useragent is considered to be of mobile client (maybe Fennec used it, but still). This is very lame for a site dedicated to development, including web. Frown | :(

Luc Pattyn9-Aug-10 18:48

Luc Pattyn

9-Aug-10 18:48

can't you change your browser's user agent? as a work-around, try browsing page "about:config" to get to the settings.

Smile | :)

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13xforever9-Aug-10 21:28

13xforever

9-Aug-10 21:28

Of course I can, but this is not per-site setting, so changing it back and forth is even more annoying; and it will reset once in a while (on restart, on update -- which is daily, etc). More importantly, this is a wrong behavior on site's side.

Besides Codeproject (which I frequent once in a while), there is only a handful of sites that exhibit the same behavior (I've stumbled upon one or two), but they are really rare exceptions, so it's not worth it in the end.

Even if we set aside the useragent detection, if I clicked Full site, I expect it to be remembered. I don't want to click it on every page [re]load.

PS: d'oh, I so can't express my thoughts clearly from the first try >.<

Chris Maunder10-Aug-10 4:26

Chris Maunder

10-Aug-10 4:26

Are you clearing your cookies?

Can you go to http://www.codeproject.com/script/misc/browsercheck.aspx[^] and send me the results. I've already put in a work-around for Minefield so I guess I'll just have to tweak it.

cheers,
Chris Maunder

The Code Project | Co-founder
Microsoft C++ MVP