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But Should Not One Really Consider W∴ Balboos, GHB21-Oct-09 6:18 W∴ Balboos, GHB 21-Oct-09 6:18  But shouldn't one really consider the app-procurement champ of the group? What does it matter how many have a particular O/S or phone-toy if they don't download your precious software? Market share should be base on a measure of consumer's actual consumption (hence the label consumer) - not potential consumption. Another interesting meter, although not as well correlated, would be the most targeted O/S on these devices. Who knows better than those embracing the dark side? "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert "It's a sad state of affairs, indeed, when you start reading my tag lines for some sort of enlightenment. Sadder still, if that's where you need to find it." - Balboos HaGadol What is this "applicaiton" you speak of? Larsenal20-Oct-09 5:38 Larsenal 20-Oct-09 5:38  Spell check, folks. Re: What is this "applicaiton" you speak of? W∴ Balboos, GHB20-Oct-09 5:48 W∴ Balboos, GHB 20-Oct-09 5:48  Shore thing ! Know won should ever right without a spell cheque! "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert "It's a sad state of affairs, indeed, when you start reading my tag lines for some sort of enlightenment. Sadder still, if that's where you need to find it." - Balboos HaGadol Re: What is this "applicaiton" you speak of? Corinna John21-Oct-09 8:48 Corinna John 21-Oct-09 8:48  Read the word aloud, then you'll understand which word is meant. This statement is false. Re: What is this "applicaiton" you speak of? Chris Maunder21-Oct-09 14:48 Chris Maunder 21-Oct-09 14:48  cheers, Chris Maunder The Code Project Co-founder Microsoft C++ MVP Re: What is this "applicaiton" you speak of? Jörgen Sigvardsson22-Oct-09 11:25 Jörgen Sigvardsson 22-Oct-09 11:25  Just blame it on the intern. If you don't have any of those, blame it on the newest employee. You're the SESDO (Senior Executive Super Dude Officer)! -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit Let's have a look at Current Market Share parth.p19-Oct-09 5:44 parth.p 19-Oct-09 5:44  I saw the following post few weeks ago, and it was surprising. Most of us would be thinking about Making money, so of-course what you need is more users, right? Have look on following link and then make up your mind, I bet lot of you would change your opinion after that(Specially those 48% windows Dev). http://www.macrumors.com/2009/09/30/admob-iphone-os-grabs-40-of-worldwide-smartphone-ad-request-share/[^] - Stop thinking in terms of limitations and start thinking in terms of possibilities - Re: Let's have a look at Current Market Share John M. Drescher19-Oct-09 6:20 John M. Drescher 19-Oct-09 6:20  The good thing for me is Symbian is moving to Qt. John Re: Let's have a look at Current Market Share ryall19-Oct-09 12:33 ryall 19-Oct-09 12:33  Lets have a look at how restricted an iPhone developer is in terms of what their app is "allowed" to do, then lets look at the draconian black hole that is the AppStore approval process... Re: Let's have a look at Current Market Share ed welch19-Oct-09 14:17 ed welch 19-Oct-09 14:17  Apple is a lot less restrictive than other distributors. Try getting a J2ME game in the operator's deck and see how easy it is. Or try and get your PSP game approved by Sony. Re: Let's have a look at Current Market Share Jim Crafton21-Oct-09 4:52 Jim Crafton 21-Oct-09 4:52  ryall wrote: Lets have a look By "let's have a look", do you mean, let's all watch random crap "reports" get posted on Slashdot and then waste time reading the "insightful" comments as the mob spazs out over rumors, hearsay, and general tech blather? Is that what you're referring to? Alternately you could just go and write an app, submit it, and not really worry, safe in the knowledge that most apps DO get approved with little to no hassle. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow Re: Let's have a look at Current Market Share ryall21-Oct-09 9:34 ryall 21-Oct-09 9:34  You should explain that to Google. But seriously I'd rather write an app and let consumers decide on whether it's successful, rather than grovel cap-in-hand for the chance to release my work. Re: Let's have a look at Current Market Share Jaime Olivares20-Oct-09 18:13 Jaime Olivares 20-Oct-09 18:13  Current market share based on Ad statistics? Indeed that was an "Ad share". Market shares are based on sales (either units or incomes). That report only reveals the most advertised producs by OS. Best regards, Jaime. Re: Let's have a look at Current Market Share Jim Crafton21-Oct-09 5:00 Jim Crafton 21-Oct-09 5:00  This might be what you're looking for: http://mytechnews.info/b/tag/smartphone-market-share[^] Accorinding to this Apple is at ~20% (for Q4 2008), a doubling from the previous year. Android isn't even mentioned specifically, so who knows where they are. Assuming "Others", HTC, and Samsung are all (or mostly) using Win Mob, then in total it has ~28%. ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow Re: Let's have a look at Current Market Share thrakazog21-Oct-09 6:01 thrakazog 21-Oct-09 6:01  Symbian OS is used all widely but not all of them are really smartphones like you might think of windows mobile, iphone, or android phones. I had a little nokia in the past that had the Symbian OS on it. It was as cheap/plain a phone as you could ask for. It could barely manage calls and texts. The OS ran the phone but it was far from smart. Perhaps it should say Palm/WebOS? kinar19-Oct-09 4:06 kinar 19-Oct-09 4:06  PalmOS sucks and to my knowledge is no longer in development. The development community knows it now as WebOS. Luddite at Large W∴ Balboos, GHB19-Oct-09 3:31 W∴ Balboos, GHB 19-Oct-09 3:31  My cell phone? A Nokia TracPhone which was the free phone with a Cingular (now AT&T) 300 minute/month account . . . which I generally keep turned off. - Text Messaging? Disabled (incoming/outgoing). - Ringtone? A monophonic built-in. Philosphy: I OWN my phone - and not the other way around. I wonder - how many of you had to glance at your phones (out of habit) for incoming whatever while reading this? How often whilst you're eating? For the "unmarried" - on a date? "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert "It's a sad state of affairs, indeed, when you start reading my tag lines for some sort of enlightenment. Sadder still, if that's where you need to find it." - Balboos HaGadol You call youself a luddite? Nemanja Trifunovic19-Oct-09 4:45 Nemanja Trifunovic 19-Oct-09 4:45  I have a Motorola and can't even find out what model; I know it came for free from Cingular (now AT&T) when I first purchased my "Pay to Go" plan - it costs me $100 a year. Yes - a year. I am pretty sure it is not "smart" or "programmable" and would bet money it does not run any OS. Having said all that, I would love to do some programming for small devices - but not sure if phones even qualify as such any more with all the memory and CPU power they have. Heck, people even use Java to program them nowdays... utf8-cpp Re: You call youself a luddite? Jörgen Sigvardsson22-Oct-09 11:26 Jörgen Sigvardsson 22-Oct-09 11:26  Compared to the standards of 1980, people are carrying super computers in their pockets these days. And a few hundred lunar landers... -- Kein Mitleid Für Die Mehrheit Re: Luddite at Large Mycroft Holmes19-Oct-09 12:13 Mycroft Holmes 19-Oct-09 12:13  You may own your own phone but how much of that 300 minute a month do you use and are therefore subsidizing the company for the rest of it. I use pay as you use (I also turn the bloody thing off or simply leave it at home) and actually went through $20 in 1 month which was extraordinary for me . So I'll join you in the Luddite club if I may. Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH Re: Luddite at Large W∴ Balboos, GHB20-Oct-09 2:14 W∴ Balboos, GHB 20-Oct-09 2:14  Actually - My phones part of a family plan - so my wife an I share the 300 minutes. The additional cost for my phone is US$9.99, and after exorbitant taxes, ca.US$15. I'd looked into some pay-as-you-go plans - but, as this wouldn't work out with my wife's slowly-but-surely increasing usage, I may as well keep what I've got. Actual usage is a bit hard to gage, for if we call one another, it doesn't count. (cell-to-cell between is small). A thought to consider: AT&T (formerly Cingular) offers roll-over-minutes, which allows you to accumulate unused minutes from previous months for future usage. This is an ingenious sales gimmick. With some exceptions, there are two types of users: those who pretty much always use all of their minutes, and those who don't. For those who don't, we keep accumulating rollover minutes we'll never use. The plan is, for most people, offering them perceived value with no actual value. Absolutely ingenious. (Rollover minutes have no value and expire after 12 months). At least we Luddies don't walk around with a ridiculous blue thing sticking out of our ear (resembling Mr. Spock on early Star Trek?). Perhaps having their phone always-at-the-ready gives people a perception of self importance? "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert "It's a sad state of affairs, indeed, when you start reading my tag lines for some sort of enlightenment. Sadder still, if that's where you need to find it." - Balboos HaGadol Re: Luddite at Large Mycroft Holmes20-Oct-09 12:25 Mycroft Holmes 20-Oct-09 12:25  Balboos wrote: my wife's slowly-but-surely increasing usage This may actually drive me to getting a contract, it is a slow process but useage is gdefinately growing. Rollover minutes, what a crock, some marketing weenie got innovator of the month for that one! Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH Re: Luddite at Large peterchen20-Oct-09 5:45 peterchen 20-Oct-09 5:45  Balboos wrote: For the "unmarried" - on a date? My phone tells me when I have a date. Personally, I love the idea that Raymond spends his nights posting bad regexs to mailing lists under the pseudonym of Jane Smith. He'd be like a super hero, only more nerdy and less useful. [Trevel] | FoldWithUs! | sighist | µLaunch - program launcher for server core and hyper-v server Re: Luddite at Large Jim Crafton21-Oct-09 4:53 Jim Crafton 21-Oct-09 4:53  I've got you beat hands down - I don't even have a cell phone!!! Bah humbug on you all! ¡El diablo está en mis pantalones! ¡Mire, mire! SELECT * FROM User WHERE Clue > 0 0 rows returned Save an Orange - Use the VCF! Personal 3D projects Just Say No to Web 2 Point Blow Hmmm... Gilad Kapelushnik19-Oct-09 3:08 Gilad Kapelushnik 19-Oct-09 3:08  Symbian holds around 75% of the mobile OS market and yet only a few would support it.

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