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For home use, i have Vista x64 Ultimate and would love to go to a system which has the features of vista (ie the nice n shiny looks, instant searches etc) but with a much lower required spec and heopfully wider driver support. My wireless driver crashed too often, the display driver crashes from time to time, and now IE has developed a stange fault where openeing new tabs or windows from links just crashes the browser.
But then it all comes down to price for the vista users like myself who probably feel a little shafted by the problems of vista.
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Simone Serponi wrote: God, it too much asking for an OS that works Fine and does not force you to buy a 3K+ $ /Euros Computer? D'Oh!
From Microsoft? Of course it's too much to ask!
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The main reason is at work I really need a 64 bit windows box. We have tried xp64 with some success but also some bad behavior. And then vista and its poor implementation of UAC, I really do not want to go there.
I have been using windows7 on the laptop for a few months and it generally works great except for yesterday when I had to boot my machine to linux so that I could put an executable in C:\Program Files. For some reason windows was doing everything it could (paste was not an option from explorer and the command window gave me access denied) to stop me from doing so. So where else am I to install applications (that do not have installers)? It would have been nicer to see a prompt that told me that installing an application may be dangerous and ask me if I want to continue?
[EDIT]Perhaps the folder I was trying to write to (under C:/Program Files(x86)/) was read only. I did not check, because this is not something you see on XP or lower. [/EDIT]
John
modified on Monday, April 27, 2009 9:55 AM
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Windows Vista and Windows 7 both protect critical system folders, such as Program Files, Program Files (x86), Windows, etc. You need to be an administrator to copy stuff there...and depending on how your copying, you may need to explicitly elevate the program your using to "install" to administrator level first. (i.e. Your trying to copy with the command prompt, which defaults to a normal user level...run it as admin first, and copy will work fine.)
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I was logged in as the administrator which is the only account on the machine. I have heard that I should change this to a normal user for UAC to work better, I just have not done this yet.
John
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On Vista and Win7, being logged in as an Administrator does not mean the actions you take happen as an Administrator. If UAC is turned on, then you have to explicitly choose to elevate your processes to admin level for your activities to be administrative. (If UAC is in silent mode...which some third party programs allow you to enable, then your not prompted by UAC, but neither are you automatically elevated when explicit elevation is required. If UAC is off, then its as if you were logged on as an Administrator in WinXP.) Otherwise, they take place as if you were a normal user. There are other rules around it all, too...doing things in your User folders are automatically elevated (or they don't require elevation...depends). However, modifying system locations such as Program Files do not automatically elevate...and require explicit elevation. Windows 7 has much improved the elevation, and offers buttons that can elevate your privilege momentarily only for the action in progress.
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Thanks.
I did not turn UAC off or change any of the default settings. I just wanted to copy a normal win32 application executable to a path under c:\Program Files(x86).
After a google search, I found a way to run explorer elevated. I will try to remember this next time I try to install an application that does not have an installer.
John
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I used to have Win 7 but missed the Hyper-V that much that I changed to Windows Server 2008 R2 beta (Windows 7 Server) as my main Workstation OS.
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Its like bying a new car, the old one will get you there in rather good comfort. There was a time I could fix it myself, but now I have to pay through the nose. The rest of the family will want one too! Oh Oh there goes the retirement budjet. Now we all need new computers to run the new OS not tomention new applications (a licence for each member).
Il have to chuc along in my old JALOPY for a few years and skip a fey model years.
Sorry GM FORD CHRY etc....
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I'd consdier this version if and when can be set to look, feel, and run like XP, then I'll switch over (cautiously, after the cannon fodder find the bugs for me).
and, if that doesn't happen,
I'll just continue waiting for Micrsoft's master plan for Win9: MS Windows UBUNTU .
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"How do you find out if you're unwanted if everyone you try to ask tells you to stop bothering them and just go away?" - Balboos HaGadol
"It's a sad state of affairs, indeed, when you start reading my tag lines for some sort of enlightenment. Sadder still, if that's where you need to find it." - Balboos HaGadol
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They say that windows 7 will magically fix all the problems with Vista. Is it true? Who knows, but for the meantime I'm sticking with XP.
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You can try the betas out for yourself and see. As far as I can tell after using it since the beginning of December 2008, Win7 is definitly an improvement over Vista: prettier, more compatible, lower profile, less intrusive (UAC is configurable and not as nagging), more efficient (laptop battery power lasts much longer), and generally a joy to use.
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Jon Rista wrote: prettier
If you mean it looks like Win3 then I might consider it.
An operating system should be pretty like a Liebherr T 282B[^] is pretty. 
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There is no way I can get my business to fork out extra costs for install, training and redevelopment work involved (even with virtual XP).
Management teams moto 'if it ain't broke...'
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As funny as it sounds, I do use Win7 at work (and love it), but Vista works just fine on my home machine and XP on the netbook, so I don't plan on replacing them.
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I am using XP in my office and Vista on my laptop.Using XP for almost 8 years,still i don't know necessary in-out about XP. i am slow learner.. i think i will pick window 7 when window 8 will be in market!
"Opinions are neither right nor wrong. I cannot change your opinion. I can, however, change what influences your opinion." - David Crow
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Don't worry... Windows 7 runs in any hardware 
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail."
- Abraham Maslow
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Which shows that this pole should have beed separated into 2: one for personal and one for business use. They would show almost opposite trends.
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ThatsAlok es, if paid for new hardware to run Window 7
I'm needing a new PC, but I'm putting off the hardware purchase until Windows 7 comes along. There are some rumours that it will be sometime in October that it will be available. Some even say it will be ready for the end of Summer Back to School season (I think they are being optimistic) and MS are saying 2010.
I'm hoping it is this year because my desktop PC is in need of replacement as it is now quite old.
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I am already using the BETA in my tablet & my HTC-SHIFT. I would definitely upgrade when the OS is released...
But on my office PC... which still runs XP with IE6... God only knows 
"He that is good with a hammer tends to think everything is a nail."
- Abraham Maslow
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Yeah, i'm in the same boat. Holding out hope that the VPN plays along with W7 better than it did with Vista...
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