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What part of forms on top of MFC simplifies your GUI development?
It seems to me using MFC and forms only complicates things.
If using MFC, can you use dialogs instead?
If you want to go managed, have you looked at XNA?
Mark
Mark Salsbery
Microsoft MVP - Visual C++
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Thanks for your answer Mark.
I'm developing a casino application with a lobby as the main win. Selecting a game from the lobby menu opens the game in another window. You're saying i can open the game in a dialog. Does that make sense?
Besides, i'm still perplexed by which windows architecture i should use. View/Document (MDI) or dialog based. These are critical issus that i'm facing right now. The directX requirement complicates things even further.
I'll appriciate your advise.
Thanks.
Snir_ya.
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snir_ya wrote: You're saying i can open the game in a dialog. Does that make sense?
It doesn't have to be a dialog - any window will work.
I was just wondering why you thought forms would simplify this?
snir_ya wrote: i'm still perplexed by which windows architecture i should use. View/Document (MDI) or dialog based
You don't have to use either. Your application's main window can be any
type of window. If the design of your application doesn't involve documents and
views of those documents, then certainly don't use doc/view architecture.
snir_ya wrote: The directX requirement complicates things even further
In windowed mode, then the same issues as above apply. In fullscreen mode, you don't
have to worry much about windows. If you want your game to work in both modes, then
you'll need windows.
I would recommend using the framework you (and your team if applicable)
are most comfortable with, whether it's straight Win32 APIs, MFC, or .NET.
They are still all valid solutions so using the one you're strongest
in will probably yield the best end result.
Mark
Mark Salsbery
Microsoft MVP - Visual C++
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Thanks again Mark. You're very helpful.
Mark Salsbery wrote: In windowed mode, then the same issues as above apply. In fullscreen mode, you don't
have to worry much about windows. If you want your game to work in both modes, then
you'll need windows.
What do you mean by "windowed mode"? we do intend to give the users the option to play in full/partial screen mode. So by "you'll need windows" are you refering to the obligation to use the doc/view windows architecture?
Snir_ya.
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Great. It's all clear now. Many thanks 
Snir_ya.
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Hello everyone,
I am wondering in the following code, member variable a in class B is not put in the initialization list or constructor of B directly, but it is initialized. How and when member variable a of class B is created and initialized? Is constructor of B invokes constructor of a?
Output is,
In constructor A
In constructor B
using namespace std;
class A
{
public:
A()
{
cout << "In constructor A" << endl;
}
};
class B
{
public:
A a;
B()
{
cout << "In constructor B" << endl;
}
};
int main()
{
B b;
return 0;
}
thanks in advance,
George
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Thanks CPallini,
My question is answered.
regards,
George
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Order of the member variables affects initialization. Play around with the order of the A and B member variables in C:
#include <iostream>
using std::wcout;
class A
{
public:
A()
{
wcout << L"A\n";
}
};
class B
{
public:
B()
{
wcout << L"B\n";
}
};
class C
{
A a;
B b;
public:
C() : a()
{
wcout << L"D\n";
}
};
int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[])
{
C c;
wcout << L"End\n";
}
More constructor information: http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/ctors.html[^]
Free e-books: http://www.mindview.net/Books/TICPP/ThinkingInCPP2e.html[^]
"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." --Winston Churchill
modified on Tuesday, December 18, 2007 10:40:05 AM
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Thanks George,
The output is,
A
B
D
End.
But I do not know what do you want to prove? Any more descriptions please?
regards,
George
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George_George wrote: I do not know what do you want to prove?
are you stupid ? you have the order of execution, so you can deduce from there the order in which the members are initialized... 
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perhaps a stronger example could be
...
public:
C() : b()
{
wcout << L"D\n";
}
...
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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toxcct wrote: are you stupid ?
You're definitely unable to be patient with that guy!
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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PATIENT ? WTF !!!
i've been waiting 1 year and a half for an answer to a question of mine, and you call me not patient ? 
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toxcct wrote: i've been waiting 1 year and a half for an answer to a question of mine, and you call me not patient ?
and did he eventually give it?
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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eventually ?
have you ever seen that monkey replying to one of your questions ?
but you know, those chinese people (i mean, the ones living in china) have so much restrictions over their head by their governement that i wouldn't be astonished that they are feared to give too much personal informations.
anyway, i definitely know a good one about him : George_George is a prat, a moron, wait, A DICKHEAD !!
someone with a minimal common sense wouldn't reask same things again and again.
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toxcct wrote: have you ever seen that monkey replying to one of your questions ?
Yes, he did.
I understand you're angry with him, but... be patient.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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CPallini wrote: Yes, he did.
where ? and about what ?
if it was about a technical question, yes, he will sometimes answer.
about personnal question, never. and not only he doesn't reply not really exactly, but he totally ignore us.
CPallini wrote: I understand you're angry with him, but... be patient.
as long as he continue in his direction, I have absolutely no reason to change my idea of this guy. it's up to him to show me a better side of his.
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toxcct wrote: where ? and about what ?
I asked him what is the reason behind all his questions. He answered was just for technical fun.
toxcct wrote: I have absolutely no reason to change my idea of this guy
Oh, you don't have to. But I think you could just be more patient with him.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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toxcct wrote: it's up to him to show me a better side of his.
By telling you his age? How exactly does that matter to anything? 
"Normal is getting dressed in clothes that you buy for work and driving through traffic in a car that you are still paying for, in order to get to the job you need to pay for the clothes and the car and the house you leave vacant all day so you can afford to live in it." - Ellen Goodman
"To have a respect for ourselves guides our morals; to have deference for others governs our manners." - Laurence Sterne
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DavidCrow wrote: By telling you his age?
Or if he comes from China?
Well I think toxcct is just a curious guy.
If the Lord God Almighty had consulted me before embarking upon the Creation, I would have recommended something simpler.
-- Alfonso the Wise, 13th Century King of Castile.
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Thanks toxcct,
I want to learn from you guys whether it is good code to leave some initialization of member variable code outside constructor, like I showed in the sample.
regards,
George
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Change the order of A and B in the C class and see the result:
class C
{
B b;
A a;
public:
C() : a()
{
wcout << L"D\n";
}
};
"We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give." --Winston Churchill
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