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Hi,
have you thinked about putting like a page numbers serie to navigate into forums? I mean something like google or other sites. I think a good format could be:
First | (Actual-10) | (Actual-2) | Previous | .Actual = N. | Next | (Actual+2) | (Actual+10) | Last??
It is quite annoying to go back one page at a time if you have to find a message for a week ago (at least in forums with so much messages as VC++) if you forget to get the perma link.
-- modified at 6:45 Friday 30th November, 2007
I know, there is the search option, but if you go out during a few days, after weekend or holidays or just two three days that you didnt come in forum... you have to go back 10 - 20 pages one per one, too take a look on what was written in your absence
Greetings.
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M.D.V. 
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
“The First Rule of Program Optimization: Don't do it. The Second Rule of Program Optimization (for experts only!): Don't do it yet.” - Michael A. Jackson
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Yep - it's in the upcoming version
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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nice ^^
Greetings.
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M.D.V.
If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about?
Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you
“The First Rule of Program Optimization: Don't do it. The Second Rule of Program Optimization (for experts only!): Don't do it yet.” - Michael A. Jackson
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... it will be usefull, or not? :P
VirtualVoid.NET
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Hi All/Chris,
Is it possible to offer up time/services to CodeProject? If so, I'd like to assist in lessening the load of the staff.
I'm not a web guy, so the html stuff is out of my league. But the high level protocols (especially in the area of data confidentiality, integrity, and authenticity) is right up my alley. With some help (help on the web usability side of the control), I could probably code up some ActiveX widgets if CP needed them for whatever reason.
Also, even though my under graduate degree was in Computer Science, I took a lot of Information Systems classes. My feeling was that the greatest product in the world was worthless if it could not be easily used. To that end, I focused on User Interface design. So if there are any design issues which need to be addresed, I can assist there also.
Jeff
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I appreciate the offer, Jeff, but we don't currently use ActiveX controls in the site (not cross browser, not acceptable to many people, so last century )
The best thing you could do is keep up the suggestions and be patient with us. Usablity is a whole massive project we want to undertake next year so I'd be very happy to have help in that regard.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Chris Maunder wrote: we don't currently use ActiveX controls in the site
They are also deemed to be insecure. However, how about having the following at least to restricted sections like http://labs.codeproject.com/[^] to demonstrate new technologies.
I would suggest like:
1) Silverlight
2) .NET based ActiveX Controls (For sure, Internet Explorer has good security for .NET controls in place since even IE 5.5 Tools Internet Options highlights. Isn't it?)
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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It would be nice to see the current ratings next to the article on the front page links. For example, if an article has only 1 vote of 1, I would still read it. But if it had 8+ votes that averaged 1, I would probably skip it altogether.
I recently did a google search for keywords to a problem I was trying to solve. It came up with an article on CP, so I brought it up. It wasn't very good, so knowing that the article had a poor rating quickly after being posted would've helped. I later did a search on CP, filtering out less than 3 rating, and read a good article that helped. I'm pretty sure that articles that end up in Purgatory aren't included in the google scan but even bad article are indexed when first put up.
Another nice feature would be an "ignore" of "so-called authors" that consistantly upload really worthless articles. Even a filter by country would be good since some areas of the world tend to have high percentages of work that end up in purgatory or removed for plagiarism.
CP is more valuable to me than MSDN in a lot of cases. I would like to see good quality information within easy reach instead of wading through junk first.
Thanks and keep up this great site!
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Added to the suggestions TODO list. Thanks!
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Today CP servers are fast in responding to GET request but when messages are posted, they are terribly slow. Looks like there are bottlenecks with backend database?
Any similar experiences?
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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message posting is always bottlenecked on my end.
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Help Stamp Out and Abolish Redundancy
The preceding is courtesy of the Department of Unnecessarily Redundant Repetition Department.
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Yes, we know.
You have access to the beta site so should be aware of the changes we have implemented there. I guess I could go tighten the rubber bands on the servers a little, but apart from the rewrite we're doing I'm not sure what else we can do
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Hi All/Chris,
I've been tossing this issue around for a while, and I wanted to offer up some comments (I know...). I believe it will improve the quality of submissions to the CodeProject.
* Rendering
At times, the editor simply does not render the same page which will eventually be served up by the CodeProject server. Reconcilling this issue will provide the visual feedback for submission formatting errors early in the process, where they are easier to fix for the author.
* Image Base consolidation
At times, after inserting an image, the blank image (Red 'X") is displayed. I believe it is a side effect (or part of) the basic rendering problem described above.
* Force a Preview
After clicking 'Submit', offer the Preview as the next screen with a chance to go back and edit. Too many (including myself) do not take advantage of the feature. Coersing its use will at least bring to light some of the formatting errors.
* Spell Checking
Add a spell checker module. Skip the grammar (it's too hard a problem). No explainations necessary. (Lord knows I need it).
* On the wish list
Cleanup the validation code. When validating during submit, my machine basically locks because Explorer is consuming all available cycles. For me, this can last between 15 and 30 seconds. Yuk!
Jeff
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The rendering engine is IE. If IE's WYSIWYG editor and IE's HTML viewing engine differ then that makes life difficult. Have you tried Firefox? Could you please send me specific snippets of HTML that render differently in the editor and the final article? I will investigate. I'm starting to feel we should simply move to another editor. It won't fix all problems but at least we could use something more widely used.
Image preview: Is this in the "Add image" popup? That one's a funny one. Doesn't work sometimes, works every single time I try and debug it.
Force Preview: Not a bad idea at all.
Spell check: Thought about this one too and have investigated some options but I've not found anything that makes me feel confident in it. There's always FireFox as an interim solution.
Validation: Not sure what you mean. Any delay between the final "submit" and the article being finally sumitted is server-side, not client side. Yet another of the things we're working on
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Hi Chris,
Chris Maunder wrote: Could you please send me specific snippets of HTML that render differently in the editor and the final article?
Will do when I come across it. If I recall, it had to do with copy and paste from a third party site. The pasted code picked up attributes that were in a [SPAN] tag. In the WYSIWYG editor, the background color attribute was not rendered. When the article was received from the server, the tags were still present, so the user agnet rendered them.
I suspect this is why a recent article had a bright yellow background on the text (and not the entire body of the document).
Chris Maunder wrote: Doesn't work sometimes, works every single time I try and debug it.
Of course.
Jeff
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Hi
I haven't been seeing this link for a couple of days now... am I missing some setting?
Thanks
Chandra
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ChandraRam wrote: I haven't been seeing this link for a couple of days now... am I missing some setting?
Maybe it's been disabled for Bronze level members? [just a guess]
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Nishant Sivakumar wrote: Maybe it's been disabled for Bronze level members? [just a guess]
If that were the case, does it imply that bronze members cannot think for themselves?? or were somehow inferior that their opinions need not count?
But seriously, what other features are disabled or are unavailable to bronze members?
Thanks
Chandra
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Posting status:<br />
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Lurker No Messages have been posted <br />
Poster The member has posted up to 100 messages <br />
Regular The member has posted from 100 up to 1000 messages <br />
Personality The member has posted 1000 up to 5000 messages <br />
Fixture The member has posted over 5000 messages <br />
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Author status:<br />
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Browser No Articles have been posted <br />
Contributor The member has submitted up to 4 articles <br />
Writer The member has submitted 5-14 articles <br />
Prolific The member has submitted 15-24 articles <br />
Legend The member has submitted over 25 articles <br />
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Membership status calculated as follows:<br />
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1-4 articles posted = Bronze. 5-14 articles = Silver. 15-24 articles = Gold. 25+ articles = Platinum. Each 500 messages posted adds one level, and if a user has posted a message then each year of membership adds 1 level. Bonus levels not valid for Gold members. Bronze is awarded at the beginning of the first 500 messages posted instead of the end.
I would say these restrictions should apply from the first category ('Posting Status') instead of from articles. There are a few experts who love to participate in the forums but feel a bit bored and impatient to type out a at-length article.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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It's to stop someone creating a new account, posting 1 message, then going and reporting (and hence banning) other members' posts
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Would it be possible to make it that if someone votes for an article, it should be mandatory for them to leave a comment as to why they voted the way they did? Let's take for example this article here: http://www.codeproject.com/useritems/GenericSingleton.asp[^]
At the time this message was posted, it was rated far below than it should it have been ( <= 2.0), and yet there were no comments as to why someone would have voted that low for it. It's fairly well written, provides a novel approach to Singleton Patterns, etc. and yet whoever nuked it gave no clue as to why.
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JohnnyLocust wrote: At the time this message was posted, it was rated far below than it should it have been ( <= 2.0), and yet there were no comments as to why someone would have voted that low for it. It's fairly well written, provides a novel approach to Singleton Patterns, etc. and yet whoever nuked it gave no clue as to why.
I am not so sure it's a novel approach. There are far too many articles on using the singleton pattern here on CP and on the web. So such articles often run a risk of getting severely low votes.
If you are writing on a very thoroughly exhausted topic, it's best to repeatedly explain at the very beginning how your article differs from previous ones.
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So such articles often run a risk of getting severely low votes.
Did you even read what I wrote? If someone voted his article a 1 because "There are far too many articles on using the singleton pattern here on CP and on the web." how would the author know what he did right or wrong if no comments were made along with the vote?
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JohnnyLocust wrote: Did you even read what I wrote? If someone voted his article a 1 because "There are far too many articles on using the singleton pattern here on CP and on the web." how would the author know what he did right or wrong if no comments were made along with the vote?
I agree that a comment would be helpful. But insisting on a comment for every vote is not a good idea at all. People would just be pissed. Some people will vote, some comment, others do both. We have to live with that.
In this particular case, he'd just have had to do a bit of research around CP to figure out why his article was not well received. It's one of the most elementary checks to do when submitting an article to a website to see if others have already done so.
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JohnnyLocust wrote: There are far too many articles on using the singleton pattern here on CP and on the web
Not all fingers are same. If the author has truly intended his article from his heart and has written it (without attempting plagarism) then he should be saved from this 'Low-Vote-Menace'.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar
Personal Homepage
Tech Gossips
A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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