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In fact usually I over-simplfy what I do.... "I am just a lowly software developer, I do a user interface or two."
and leave it at that. It isn't that I am not proud, I am glad I do what I do. I just don't think I need to brag about it. My cousin's a lawyer, she doesn't brag either. It just is.
It's not like it is a competition to see who did best in life. I certainly don't have a great record there, discounting career, so nothing really to brag about there either.
Computer programming is like pinball. The reward for doing it well, is getting to do it again. 
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Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau.
Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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El Corazon wrote: Computer programming is like pinball. The reward for doing it well, is getting to do it again.
With your Intel C/C++ compiler that I don't have yet. 
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: With your Intel C/C++ compiler that I don't have yet.
It's just a compiler, Jeremy.  There are a lot of compilers. Many of the same features are in other compilers, Intel just makes it a hair faster in the final code.
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Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau.
Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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El Corazon wrote: Intel just makes it a hair faster in the final code
Actually, I'm wondering. Any speed gains on AMDs too or is the performance boost specific to Intel processors?
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Jeremy Falcon wrote: Actually, I'm wondering. Any speed gains on AMDs too or is the performance boost specific to Intel processors?
Shhhhhhh!!!! don't tell Intel, but SSE is used by more than them.... 
You can't optimize for 3DNow for AMD, but any of the common instruction sets, you enable support for in the compiler and you can optimize the heck out of your binary for AMD or Intel. SSE2 is common enough now that you don't limit anyone, but at least SSE.
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Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau.
Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I am proud of what I do but this is mostly because I am involved in cancer research. If I was developing software to stream porn out to 10 million customers I am not sure I would tell anyone...
John
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Developing integrated methods to deliver high availability, high bandwidth, interactive content to millions of concurrent users.
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Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
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John M. Drescher wrote: If I was developing software to stream porn out to 10 million customers I am not sure I would tell anyone...
Erm....
Actually, it's quite fun seeing their shocked expressions. Especially in certain circles, like the newagey Waldorf community. You can be talking esotericism one moment and porn the next! 
Marc
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But porn increases quality of life. 
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: But porn increases quality of life.
Maybe, but it can surely decrease quantity of life if abused. 
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And I try not to admit it either, because then people ask me if I can fix their computer.
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I hate having to listen to the story about so-and-so who does "exactly" what I do and is such a genius he can fix anything. When I meet a Mechanical Engineer I don't ask him to change the oil in my car or tell him about my nephew Bob who changes tires at Walmart.
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Happiness in intelligent people is the rarest thing I know. -- Ernest Hemingway
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: And I try not to admit it either, because then people ask me if I can fix their computer.
Oh man, you hit the nail right on the head. And I love those "my computer is acting wierd, do you think you could help me?" ARGH! I need a portable billing meter, a battery powered equivalent of what the have in taxicabs.
Marc
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PIEBALDconsult wrote: because then people ask me if I can fix their computer.
This is one of the most amazing concepts. I can't imagine doing that for any other career. But it is like this magical miracle capability. "oh wow, you understand computers!! can you fix mine I ruined because I did not??"
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Asu no koto o ieba, tenjo de nezumi ga warau.
Talk about things of tomorrow and the mice in the ceiling laugh. (Japanese Proverb)
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I expect most physicians and lawyers get asked such things.
One of our friends is a podiatrist; I look forward to asking him about my toe when next he visits.
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...or help them with a problem in Excel or Word, or take a look at why their system starts up and says "You have spyware on your system!! upgrade to ReplaceYourSpywareWithOurs Now", or help them with their Web searches, or...just about anything else under the sun that has to do with computers.
I do use one solution that at least keeps them at bay until I have time to help them or they get tired of waiting and nag someone else into doing it - I simply mention that ten years ago my time was getting billed at $190/hour by my employer, and that the last time I worked as a consultant I billed a minimum of $50/hour...not bragging so much as throwing up a wall. That still doesn't prevent my family from getting after me (for instance, tonight I have to take a look at my stepson's keyboard port, which I hope will reveal either a short or a broken lead that I can fix, as the new keyboard didn't work any better than the old keyboard  ).
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I'm happy to be doing something i enjoy. I'm happy to be making a living doing something i enjoy.
But proud?
I've tried and failed many times to explain to people in other professions what i do.
I've tried and failed many times to explain to my own family what i do.
I haven't yet tried to explain to my employers what i do, assuming they at least should know. I'm starting to re-think that assumption.
Pretty sure doctors and elephant herders don't have this problem. Lawyers probably do, but lawyers are pretty much just hack programmers without computers. But they can at least inspire grudging respect born of fear.
---- ...the wind blows over it and it is gone, and its place remembers it no more...
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I was once VERY proud of my profession. But, after seeing many friends lose their ability to pay their mortgages because they were outsourced, I lost the love for the profession (even though I still did it).
Luckily, I stuck with it long enough to get a contract where I definitely made a difference. It was for a city service that helped children with special needs. Working on that project gave me back the pride I once had, and I am thankful to be a part of it.
I knew too many people with children that have special needs, and since I'm not a doctor, this was something I could do to truly help ease the children through the processing stage.
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"wow, you know, your system has increased our profits by 25% because the girls and the floor managers can't skim off the top when the customer hands over the cash for a dance", yeah, I'm damned proud I'm a software developer! 
Marc
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Back in real life, as a Chemist using lasers to sepeate Uranium Isotopes, people were in awe (really) of a real scientist - and would proceed to ask questions about their prescriptions.
Now, there is still a degree of awe that I am a computer programmer - and they proceed to ask me questions on what's wrong with their PC.
The pride is not so much in the programming (or blasting the hell out of molecules with a laser) - but that I haven't let myself become one of the ignorant swarm of humanity.
The sports section and entertainment-news* sections are parts of a newspaper to be skipped over. The world is too interesting, and demands too much attention, than to waste it on jibber. Yet - sometimes one can admire the swarm - interested in the trivial - feeling no pain during humanities head-long rush towards cataclysm or catastrophy. Ignorance is bliss. Chemists study how to make aspirins; computer programs concentrate on expertise with Microsoft Office.
Oh Brave New World!
*beautiful models with abundant cleavage visible, excepted.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
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So true ...so true. I know that the "civilization" we enjoy today is doomed. What it may morph into does not look real promising, it only matters to mankind if mankind survives.. and apparently not to many of us really care. I say do what you can to make a difference, live your life as you would have others live theirs.
When prediction serves as polemic, it nearly always fails. Our prefrontal lobes can probe the future only when they aren’t leashed by dogma. The worst enemy of agile anticipation is our human propensity for comfy self-delusion. David Brin
Buddha Dave
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I /used/ to be proud to be a software developer back in the days when (a) it was hard work and (b) the software that we wrote was making a fundamental difference. Now, every Tom Dick and Harry seems to think that they're a developer  , and I'm really not proud of being associated with said trio.
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Same here, the term 'Software developer' has been diluted to include script kiddies and such like.
WPF - Imagineers Wanted
Follow your nose using DoubleAnimationUsingPath
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Just a few days ago, there was a message in the Lounge. I couldn't recall it verbatim here. However, the content goes like this:
"If you know typing, you are a programmer. If you have seen Visual Studio, you are a developer".
I think the poster is cent per cent correct considering the crappy state currently.
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A pessimist sees only the dark side of the clouds, and mopes; a philosopher sees both sides, and shrugs; an optimist doesn't see the clouds at all - he's walking on them. --Leonard Louis Levinson
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