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Ad Hominem
It's natural that you'd be familiar with the term - just consider your own reference to the credibility of poets in one of your earlier posts to this thread.
Per my previous post - since the context was clearly one of personal behavior, choice, their impacts on others (who send mail to your gmail account), &etc., the fact that the reference would be to you, as an individual, is a natural consequence. Recursive usage of the phrase it would seem!
As per the database reference: if you understood the power available from catagorizing and linking all of the information they mine after storing it in database(s), you'd understand the magnitude of the problem - and it's multi-dimensional, as they create networks of aquaintaces, mutual interests, and so forth, from content, sender, recipient(s).
I think we can both agree on one thing - enough time has been wasted upon this branch of the thread.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
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Balboos wrote: It's natural that you'd be familiar with the term - just consider your own reference to the credibility of poets in one of your earlier posts to this thread.
I was not attacking you; I was attacking your logical basis of using false credibility. You're obviously not bright enough to know the difference (that's attacking you btw, I figured an example would help).
Balboos wrote: Per my previous post - since the context was clearly one of personal behavior, choice, their impacts on others (who send mail to your gmail account), &etc., the fact that the reference would be to you, as an individual, is a natural consequence. Recursive usage of the phrase it would seem!
And you're still a hypocrite in who you choose to share you "personal" information with.
Balboos wrote: As per the database reference: if you understood the power available from catagorizing and linking all of the information they mine after storing it in database(s), you'd understand the magnitude of the problem - and it's multi-dimensional, as they create networks of aquaintaces, mutual interests, and so forth, from content, sender, recipient(s).
Which shows how much you really know. I'm an expert DBA in MySQL and MS-SQL, and I can fully attest that Google isn't using something as simple as SQL for their bots. If you think the aggregative nature of SQL is sufficient in itself, then I suggest you stop postulating and start learning.
Furthermore, it's not like Google is the only company that can do this - which I've said all along. And, you can bet there's companies that you have use/used which do the same as well. In fact, CP even tracks you, so maybe you should leave this site.
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Balboos wrote: was really hoping you'd not post that particular line. So - if you don't have anything worth hiding, then you won't mind if someone opens your (snail) mail and reads it? And your phone calls? Watch your vote?
I would not mind any of that. And if someone wants to get on a ladder to try to catch my coming out of the shower more power to them as well. I have nothing at all hide.
John
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John M. Drescher wrote: I would not mind any of that. And if someone wants to get on a ladder to try to catch my coming out of the shower more power to them as well. I have nothing at all hide.
This is what 'they all say' - until it really happens. Then they go ballisitic. And I'll bet you would, too.
These scenarios are the 'Desert Island' scenarios - where one is asked, "If you were stranded on a desert island, would you . . ." The answers are always meaningless: there is no consequence for it.
If you were starving, would you eat human flesh from a parent that died? You can easily say 'no', as you're not starving. Or yes, since you don't have to really eat it.
And so it goes with your pontification on your pristine life style - you've nothing to hide.
You don't really get it: it isn't about having things to hide - it's about basic humanity.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
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It bothers me. That's why I started using my gmail account only for various web registrations. Sure they can still collect information on what sites I'm registered to, but they can have that information.
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Exactly! It's my story too.
Thank you GMAIL 
-Tohid Azizi
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Yes, that's very good. Best wishes from the NSA .
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For those of us who have been forced to use Hotmail for one reason or another, Windows Live Mail is a life saver. This is the desktop client, not web based. Between my wife and I we have 3 Hotmail accounts we regularly use setup with Live Custom Domains. This allows us to open one program and have all three email accounts available at the same time and respond to each individually. I no longer need to log out or change users.
The UI is great and it's extremely easy. It's more responsive than the web Live version and I don't have to look at ads all day.
Anyway, WLM, along with Live Writer, are two MS Live products that are actually well done and very useful.
Matt Penner
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Agree. I use it even with my other (gmail) account.
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How stable is this at the moment? I gather it's close to 1.0 release. Should I wait a month or so?
Kevin
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I have yet to have any problem with stability. It seems pretty rock solid.
My only two complaints are:
1) Seems to take a long time to load for a simple app. Probably 30 seconds from launch to actual receiving of email.
2) While you can simultaneously be accessing multiple email accounts and respond to each one individually I have yet to see a way to access the multiple address books. It seems that you mark one account as a primary and that's the address book you can use.
If anyone has a fix for #2 I'd love to hear it. Copying all the addresses from other accounts into my primary account seems like a hack.
These are both issues that I would imagine to be fixed in a future release. But as it stands, the current version is quite good.
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Vasudevan Deepak Kumar wrote: Towards this, they also have a test email website called MyRealBox (http://www.myrealbox.com/[^]). Isn't it?
I can't get it who you mention as they ?
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kanitamildasan wrote: I can't get it who you mention as they ?
Novell. Did you check out the website first? It is a test-bed for Novell Messaging Technologies as the FAQ outlines about.
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There is one nice email client which has some good features like
(*) Blind Send
(*) JunkYard etc
It was a shareware called Calypso from MCSDallas Inc. but now a freeware download from Rose City Software Inc. RCS also gives a commercial product called Courier Email Client.
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Hi,
I use the following:
1) Outlook 2003
2) Web based clients
3) Free email checking tools like eprompter, poppeeper
Regards,
Kiran
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kirankss wrote: 3) Free email checking tools like eprompter, poppeeper
There were two other good things called
(*) Saberquest MailSpy
(*) Victor's Email Remover (which peeks into the headers alone to facilitate you remove the junk email).
But I am not currently able to find both the downloads anywhere. Anyone any clue?
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For sure the best mail client.
More features, more compatible, intuitive, good looking, years of development, most likely the most used software in the world every day which leads to an exhausting user experience improvement.
Sure there are others, which have their strengths and weaknesses either but most scream "I'm more light than everyone else..."
Speaking for myself I don't look for lightness but goodness, and Outlook is the best mail client I've ever tried.
M$ would like that most user may say the same about IE :->
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> More features, more compatible, intuitive
Someone has being taking the MS marketing coolaid
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It's really not that...
As I thing about it I can't remember any other application I have the same opinion.
If you think about Outlook, after you install it, you just start working with it.
No need for big explanations, the action you perform does what what you expect it to do, it's clean no fancy icons or graphics...
Although it might be a bit heavy for some computers it works great.
In my opinion, Outlook is the M$ most successful application after Windows.
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AlexCode wrote: more compatible
Not with linux.
AlexCode wrote: intuitive, good looking,
Well at least they did not mess up the UI in Outlook 2007 like they did with the rest of the Office 2007 products.
AlexCode wrote: Outlook is the best mail client I've ever tried.
I would say it is a good email client but it still crashes far too often and is too slow and I find that searching for messages is in no way as good as gmail.
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John
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Hmmm...except for loosing the connection to the exchange server 5~6 times per day, it doesn't crash for me. Crashing is not something that I have seen outlook do very much. Although I do have problems to close it. On a regular basis it will not close and I will receive the end application dialog, but I am sure that is caused by the loss of the exchange connection.
I do feel like Outlook is the better application of the whole office suite.
I did try a couple of other email clients, but the thing is....Outlook is not just an email client and when connected to an exchange server it becomes soooo powerful. I would like to try something else, but there is not anything that can do what Outlook does. Sure I could find a calendar application....and a tasks one....and then an email one. Talk about unecessary clutter and the fact is that outlook is so powerful because it is ONE solution. Quite frankly I don't really like the calendar as it misses customizations, the same is true about the tasks, but in the end it does remain the more powerful application of the sort out there.
Dewm Solo - Managed C++ Developer
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There are 6 people quoting The Bat in others while you put Eudora and Lotus (who would be in sane mind using that, I had to use it at work but in private life on my own will, no way!).
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Come on, don't hide 
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