Visual Basic

4-Aug-07 8:12

What version of VB is everyone using, i use VB 6. What are peoples views on this?

Benjamin Dodd

Paul Conrad4-Aug-07 8:40

4-Aug-07 8:40

Benjamin Dodd wrote:
i use VB 6

It's pretty much dead language, now days.

Benjamin Dodd wrote:
What version of VB

VB.NET if there is really ever a need for it...

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Benjamin Dodd4-Aug-07 8:45

4-Aug-07 8:45

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Benjamin Dodd4-Aug-07 8:45

4-Aug-07 8:45

ok, and nice quote. I use VB 6 because i am a beginner and find it easy, once i get better at coding i will use C++ or soming along those lines. What language are you best with?

Benjamin Dodd

Paul Conrad4-Aug-07 8:52

4-Aug-07 8:52

Benjamin Dodd wrote:
I use VB 6 because i am a beginner and find it easy

Just go to VB.NET. VB6 is no longer supported.

Benjamin Dodd wrote:
What language are you best with?

C++/C#/Java/PHP/Perl/Fortran/VB.NET/Assembly (80x86, 6502), just to name a few Poke tongue | ;-P

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Benjamin Dodd4-Aug-07 9:14

4-Aug-07 9:14

haha

i jus bought the VB 6 book, Frown | :(

and that comment is not funny haha, you are a Genius hehe, you know lots of languages, im only 16, what do u suggest i use to program, i used C++ some time ago i have the books for that. Just found it a bit ahrd after a while.

Any suggestions

Benjamin Dodd

Paul Conrad4-Aug-07 9:20

4-Aug-07 9:20

Benjamin Dodd wrote:
you know lots of languages

Awww, shucks Smile | :)

I started programming when I was 9 and that was almost 26 years ago.

Since you just got a VB6 book, carry on. I'd get the fundamentals down, and move on to C++/C#.

Benjamin Dodd wrote:
ust found it a bit ahrd after a while

What is so hard about C++? Object Oriented Programming? MFC?

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Benjamin Dodd4-Aug-07 9:25

4-Aug-07 9:25

ok, wow you started at 9, thats real early Smile | :)

i started at 15, and i was doind ok with c++ just wasn`t understanding the codes very well and when i got to the secong chapter in my book, variables and strings i was confused however another read i may understand it more, because at this time i was taking my GCSEs so it wernt the best time to fill my head with new knoledge, i will read 'C++ in easy steps' a bit tomorro, maybe i will get a better understanding of it. I will contiue with VB 6 however because i have the book hehe. What was the first language u got familier with?

Benjamin Dodd

Paul Conrad4-Aug-07 9:32

4-Aug-07 9:32

Here's the chronological order I went with:

First actual language I became familiar with was the built in Basic that came with the Commodore 64/128 systems.
From there, I went on to learning assembly language for the 6502 chip which the C64/128 ran on.
After that, I upgraded to my first Intel based machine in 1991, a 386 running at 25mhz, and it was a significant leap from the C64/128.
Did a quick stint with Quick Basic 4.5/VB 1.0 (never really looked at VB again until VB.NET showed up), with some Microsoft Pascal.
Started at the local community college in 1992, learning Ada (at the time concurrently C++).
Java came around a while later, along with PHP.
Started with C# around 2002, or so, and that has been pretty much the language of choice, unless clients dictate otherwise.

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Benjamin Dodd4-Aug-07 9:37

4-Aug-07 9:37

ok wow thats alot, i have used BASIC before when i installed it in school haha, it was quite good however went swiftly on to VB 2005 express edition then i couldnt get the book for that version, so i switched to VB 6, and before BASIC me and a friends used to use C++ in school to make .exe files and just play around with C++ really, thanks for your help i will contiuse with VB 6 however at the same time i shall learn C++.

I hope i have more luck with C++ this time around haha
i'm sure doing a level math will help me with this

I want to learn at least 5 programming languages before i die hehe

This is including JAVA whith at the moment i know nothing about.

Benjamin Dodd

Paul Conrad4-Aug-07 9:43

4-Aug-07 9:43

Benjamin Dodd wrote:
I want to learn at least 5 programming languages before i die

Once you've got a few languages under your belt, then learning more is actually pretty easy once the the fundamentals are down pat Smile | :)

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Colin Angus Mackay4-Aug-07 13:14

Colin Angus Mackay

4-Aug-07 13:14

Benjamin Dodd wrote:
I want to learn at least 5 programming languages before i die

Given the way technology moves on you are most likely to achieve that before leaving university.

Apparently the upcoming languages of choice are functional languages like ML[^], which has actually been around since the 1970s. Microsoft Research are doing a lot of work with functional languages and they could becoming mainstream sometime in the next few years.

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Luc Pattyn4-Aug-07 9:39

Luc Pattyn

4-Aug-07 9:39

Hi, don't waste your time on an old language such as VB6.
If you study the ancient books you seem to own, you will be old before you get
to the current stuff, and it will not increase your market value.
Don't let the accidental book take the decisions for you...

I would go for C#: modern language, fully object oriented, more powerful than
VB.NET, less hassle than managed C++, offers all the powers .NET provides.

So I suggest you buy one introductory book on C# and study it thoroughly,
download Visual Studio C# Express Edition (it is free), and read some
CodeProject articles.

Smile | :)

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Benjamin Dodd4-Aug-07 9:42

4-Aug-07 9:42

Hi, thanks for your comment, my books are quite old hehe because i buy them second-hand cheep. Thanks, i will download C# tomorro and get a book from the libary to introduce me to it.

Thanks for your help Smile | :)

Benjamin Dodd

Paul Conrad4-Aug-07 9:43

4-Aug-07 9:43

Luc Pattyn wrote:
don't waste your time on an old language such as VB6

Been trying to tell him Smile | :)

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Benjamin Dodd4-Aug-07 9:45

4-Aug-07 9:45

haha thanks everyone, you are great helps, so i will start with C# tomorro

Benjamin Dodd

Benjamin Dodd4-Aug-07 9:49

4-Aug-07 9:49

What type of applications can be made in C# i have heard about this language, it is really advanced, does anyone have experience with this language??

Benjamin Dodd

Luc Pattyn4-Aug-07 10:15

Luc Pattyn

4-Aug-07 10:15

Hi,

The number of messages in the C# forum far exceeds the number in the VB forum.
That may indicate there are more people interested, more application possible,
but also more questions, or maybe more problems.

I suggest you read some of the messages and make up your own mind on this.

I for one have been using just C# (and plain C for native stuff) since I started
using .NET, although I have been using VB long long ago.
And yes I do read messages in other forums too, most problems are not really
language specific anyway.

Smile | :)

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Benjamin Dodd4-Aug-07 10:19

4-Aug-07 10:19

ok thank you, ill go in the other forum later, i came in this one to ask about VB 6.
Thanks

Benjamin Dodd

Paul Conrad4-Aug-07 10:23

4-Aug-07 10:23

Benjamin Dodd wrote:
What type of applications can be made in C# i have heard about this language

Just about any as in any other language.

Benjamin Dodd wrote:
it is really advanced

Nahhh, it's pretty straightforward. Advanced for a beginner like yourself, but the marketable skill set you get from it is far better than VB6 Roll eyes | :rolleyes:

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