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Re: Back Pain, Headaches Nish Nishant3-Jun-02 21:30 Nish Nishant 3-Jun-02 21:30  Kannan Kalyanaraman wrote: Since I'm six ft two I rarely have furnitures designed to my physique .. I have the same problem. I am 1.5 inches shorter than you. Nish Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him. Re: Back Pain, Headaches Cathy5-Jun-02 7:02 Cathy 5-Jun-02 7:02  Nish - Native CPian wrote: I also get sudden attacks of headache. I have a sinus problem at times but this is the no-sinus headache. I occasionally used to have migraines too during my teens. And about an year ago I had severe eye pain and suddenly everything was blurry. These are also symptoms of a brain aneurysm or tumor. You should get a CAT scan and if nothing shows up there have them do a spinal tap. I think 20% don't get picked up by a CAT scan. Oh and ask for a small needle otherwise you will have a backache for weeks. I used to get a horrible pain behind my sholder blade. It would shoot down my arm. The mouse was the problem. So a bought a trackball for work and it got better. Then I started working out. At home I have a mouse and Rodney would throw a fit if I spent any money buying a trackball. Now that I'm unemployed I'm spending a lot of time on my home computer but the pain hasn't come back. I think working out fixed it. Cathy Life's uncertain, have dessert first! Re: Back Pain, Headaches Len Holgate5-Jun-02 7:22 Len Holgate 5-Jun-02 7:22  Cathy wrote: I used to get a horrible pain behind my sholder blade. It would shoot down my arm. The mouse was the problem. So a bought a trackball for work and it got better. Then I started working out. At home I have a mouse and Rodney would throw a fit if I spent any money buying a trackball. Now that I'm unemployed I'm spending a lot of time on my home computer but the pain hasn't come back. I think working out fixed it. I had similar pains. My right shoulder arm and wrist all ached a lot and my hand felt cold. I started regular stretching, had some massages and started working out more and things started getting better. Then I noticed that my pains got worse if my mouse cable snagged on anything, even a slight bit of extra resistance (like the mouse cable rubbing against the phone cable) caused shoulder pain. I got a cordless mouse, pushed the keyboard way back on the desk and now use the mouse infront of the numeric pad. Things seem fine now, but I still stretch and work out regularly. Len Holgate www.jetbyte.com The right code, right now. Re: Back Pain, Headaches Nish Nishant5-Jun-02 13:49 Nish Nishant 5-Jun-02 13:49  Cathy wrote: These are also symptoms of a brain aneurysm or tumor. Gosh Cathy! Don't scare me Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him. Re: Back Pain, Headaches Cathy5-Jun-02 13:57 Cathy 5-Jun-02 13:57  Your chance of survival greatly increases if these things are caught early. Go get checked! Cathy Life's uncertain, have dessert first! Re: Back Pain, Headaches Nish Nishant5-Jun-02 14:38 Nish Nishant 5-Jun-02 14:38  Cathy wrote: Your chance of survival greatly increases if these things are caught early. Go get checked *faints* Nish Regards, Nish Native CPian. Born and brought up on CP. With the CP blood in him. Side effects Gary Wheeler3-Jun-02 4:33 Gary Wheeler 3-Jun-02 4:33  I voted 'Minimal stretching and minor ergonomic aids', when I should have voted 'None': I'm up and down fairly often to head into the lab or onto the production floor. As a result, I'm out of the chair fairly often. I'm a runner/cyclist, and I'll stretch at my desk now and then just because I feel like I'm getting stiff. I have an ergonomic desk chair and a keyboard drawer mounted at a comfortable height. My company felt like coddling its programmers a while back , so they bought us nice chairs and desk accessories. They'll spend $1400 each on chairs, but won't buy all of us CD writers . My point is, the health benefits of these things are side effects. The original intent doesn't have anything to do with RSI. "Think of it as evolution in action." - 'Oath of Fealty' by Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle Regular stretching, breaks each hour and good ergonomic equipment David Wulff3-Jun-02 4:09 David Wulff 3-Jun-02 4:09  I chose "Regular stretching, breaks each hour and good ergonomic equipment", because it was the only one that mentioned regular breaks. I rarely spend more than, say, thirty minutes sat in front of a machine without getting up and wandering about (if only to get a fresh coke or fetch a file). I also tend to take my hands off of the keyboard and mouse whenever I am not actively using them, and do a lot of stretching them behind my head and down my sides - this regular stretching (every ten minutes at a minimum) is true to almost everything I do, I do it in the car, I do it at the pub, and I used to do it at school. I just *love* that stretching feeling. I'm booked into a "special club" for a taster session next Thursday evening - in the paper they advertised that they could provide "the ultimate stretching experience through the aid of medievil techniques". I can't wait! ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page. Re: Regular stretching, breaks each hour and good ergonomic equipment _Magnus_3-Jun-02 4:20 _Magnus_ 3-Jun-02 4:20  You stretch your hands behind your head in the car!? /Magnus Re: Regular stretching, breaks each hour and good ergonomic equipment Paul M Watt3-Jun-02 9:28 Paul M Watt 3-Jun-02 9:28  lol Build a man a fire, and he will be warm for a day Light a man on fire, and he will be warm for the rest of his life! Re: Regular stretching, breaks each hour and good ergonomic equipment David Wulff3-Jun-02 9:43 David Wulff 3-Jun-02 9:43  Not behind my head, but every now and again while it is unoccupied I will give it a little stretch. I, er, mean my arms of course. ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page. None Paul Watson2-Jun-02 23:37 Paul Watson 2-Jun-02 23:37  I had to vote "None. Real Programmers don't get Carpal Tunnel Syndrome" because I have never had any pains resulting from the use of a computer. But I disagree with the rest of the vote option because I know many good programmers who have. A lot of co-workers often warn me that my sitting position and wrist position will get me in trouble, but after nearly 8 years I have never had a problem, while they have had plenty, even in their fancy orthopedic chairs and wrist supports. I wonder if using computers from an early age while I was still physically developing has helped (I started at about 13 years old.) Also what about other technologies? I read a rather dubious report that said teenagers thumbs were growing slightly stronger to cope with all the SMSing they do on their phones. What about TV remotes? Do they give you a kink in your thumb what with all the channel hoping? Surely if computers cause problems then so do other technologies we use a lot. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Tim Smith wrote: Over here in the third world of humor (a.k.a. BBC America), peterchen wrote: We should petition microsoft to a "target=_Paul" attribute. Re: None Eddie Velasquez3-Jun-02 1:01 Eddie Velasquez 3-Jun-02 1:01  Paul Watson wrote: had to vote "None. Real Programmers don't get Carpal Tunnel Syndrome" because I have never had any pains resulting from the use of a computer I thought the same thing for several years until I got Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, and believe me it's not fun. I will probably need surgery soon, it's a rather crippling condition. Paul, you're still a kid (I mean it in a good sense), but time (and aging) will catch up to you if you don't take the proper precautions. Eddie Velasquez: A Squeezed Devil Checkout General Guidelines for C# Class Implementation Re: None Ed Gadziemski3-Jun-02 12:27 Ed Gadziemski 3-Jun-02 12:27  I've been using terminals and computers for almost 30 years and don't have any problems. At 46, I've a lot of other things failing but so far so good on the wrists. Maybe it's because I lift weights 3 or 4 times per week and have done so since I was 10 years old. Re: None Chris Maunder3-Jun-02 1:47 Chris Maunder 3-Jun-02 1:47  I've just changed the first option (it was a little facetious ) cheers, Chris Maunder VC++ - the language that doesn't say 'no' Re: None DRHuff3-Jun-02 3:53 DRHuff 3-Jun-02 3:53  Carpal Tunnel Syndrome - isn't that what killed princess Di? Oh sorry that was Car Pole Tunnel syndrome... Dave Huff Igor would you give me a hand with the bags? Certainly - you take the blonde and I'll take the one in the turban! Re: None David Wulff3-Jun-02 9:48 David Wulff 3-Jun-02 9:48  I'm British, so I should be deeply offended by that distasteful joke, but I'm not as I never did like the woman. Very good! ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page. Re: None Paul Watson3-Jun-02 21:28 Paul Watson 3-Jun-02 21:28  David Wulff wrote: but I'm not as I never did like the woman Why the hell not? regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Tim Smith wrote: Over here in the third world of humor (a.k.a. BBC America), peterchen wrote: We should petition microsoft to a "target=_Paul" attribute. Re: None David Wulff4-Jun-02 1:52 David Wulff 4-Jun-02 1:52  Paul Watson wrote: Why the hell not? Because I am from a different generation, one that wasn't wowed by her beauty and ability to charm her way into the royal family; one that doesn't pull out the daggers and chant "treason" when a joke is made about her; one that really doesn't care who the hell she was. She did some great things, and by all means remember them, but she was not what the mass public believe she was. People love a good story... *sigh* ____________________ David Wulff hu·mour Pronunciation Key (hymr) n. & v. Chiefly British Dave's Code Project Screensaver and Wallpaper page. Re: None Paul Watson3-Jun-02 21:29 Paul Watson 3-Jun-02 21:29  Dave Huff wrote: Carpal Tunnel Syndrome - isn't that what killed princess Di? Oh sorry that was Car Pole Tunnel syndrome... I cannot believe you actually posted that. However bad form, it is nonetheless funny. regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Tim Smith wrote: Over here in the third world of humor (a.k.a. BBC America), peterchen wrote: We should petition microsoft to a "target=_Paul" attribute. Re: None DRHuff4-Jun-02 10:50 DRHuff 4-Jun-02 10:50  I am never shy about telling a joke that is in bad taste - usually involving the recently deceased or taboo subjects. About the only thing I haven't heard tasteless jokes about is 9/11 - everything else is fair game. Dave Huff Igor would you give me a hand with the bags? Certainly - you take the blonde and I'll take the one in the turban! Re: None Paul Watson4-Jun-02 22:14 Paul Watson 4-Jun-02 22:14  Dave Huff wrote: I haven't heard tasteless jokes about is 9/11 You haven't? Jeesh, I have heard plenty. Get at least one a week in my inbox. At the moment though I just delete them, not yet time to forward them on. Dave Huff wrote: Igor would you give me a hand with the bags? Certainly - you take the blonde and I'll take the one in the turban! I think we need to give you the Most Politically Incorrect Member icon regards, Paul Watson Bluegrass Cape Town, South Africa The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge Tim Smith wrote: Over here in the third world of humor (a.k.a. BBC America), peterchen wrote: We should petition microsoft to a "target=_Paul" attribute. Re: None Jason Gerard4-Jun-02 3:13 Jason Gerard 4-Jun-02 3:13  My dad has been an industrial mechnanic for nearly 20 years now and he just developed it last year and had to have surgery. They caught it early so everything is ok. It may take some time to get it, but you'll probably develop some sort of problem. Jason Gerard I had to vote 'none' Christian Graus2-Jun-02 18:59 Christian Graus 2-Jun-02 18:59  Because i've never done anything about it, I had to say none. But the truth is I am off to a physio tomorrow and I've all but stopped coding at home because of pain in my neck and arms. Christian I am completely intolerant of stupidity. Stupidity is, of course, anything that doesn't conform to my way of thinking. - Jamie Hale - 29/05/2002 Re: I had to vote 'none' Michael Dunn2-Jun-02 19:07 Michael Dunn 2-Jun-02 19:07  Ouch, too bad you let it get that bad, but I hope you feel better quickly. --Mike-- Just released - RightClick-Encrypt - Adds fast & easy file encryption to Explorer Like the Google toolbar? Then check out UltraBar, with more features & customizable search engines! My really out-of-date homepage Sonork-100.10414 AcidHelm

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