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If you're going to add tags, you should place the cursor between them. Otherwise, a cool idea....
Christian
The tragedy of cyberspace - that so much can travel so far, and yet mean so little.
And you don't spend much time with the opposite sex working day and night, unless the pizza delivery person happens to be young, cute, single and female. I can assure you, I've consumed more than a programmer's allotment of pizza, and these conditions have never aligned. - Christopher Duncan - 18/04/2002
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Christian Graus wrote:
you should place the cursor between them
I donno why, but that sentence looks like it came out of a pr0n book 
Nish
Regards,
Nish
Native CPian.
Born and brought up on CP.
With the CP blood in him.
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This feature will be included in the next upgrade. 
Seriously though, I am working on this I just haven't worked all the bugs out yet.
Jason Jystad
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Jason Jystad wrote:
With important input from Nish
Thanks Jason 
Nish
Regards,
Nish
Native CPian.
Born and brought up on CP.
With the CP blood in him.
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Thank you for the input. The convert button was your idea, and now it is my favorite feature.
Now if I could just get Chris to give me a thumbs up or a thumbs down.
Jason Jystad
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Jason Jystad wrote:
Now if I could just get Chris to give me a thumbs up or a thumbs down
lol! I honestly haven't had a chance to look over it carefully. OK <tappity> Let's give it a burl.- Looks good.
- love the insert smiley thing. Well done.
- I wouldn't put spaces around the > inserts.
- It would be really, really nice to have the buttons be reversible. Thus, if a text selection starts with <small> and ends with </small>, and the 'small' button is clicked, the tags are removed instead of added.
- The addition of a URLeriser would be great. Something that takes text and wraps in <a href...> tags. If the text didn't start with "http://" then http would need to be added.
I'll definitely implement some (or most) of the functionality. Nice work Jason!!
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Jason Jystad wrote:
This is something I wanted to talk to you about. The modified InsertText function does this because I have noticed that some smilies require spaces around them before they will parse correctly. Is this by design? Or have I just been smokeing crack again? If the smiley parser doesn't require them then I'll be happy to remove the spaces
The spaces are because some smileys need spaces around them to ensure they aren't mixed up with legit words (eg : D needs a space after the 'D' so that something like ::DestroyWindow isn't turned into  estroyWindow)
Jason Jystad wrote:
So do you want me to go ahead and implement the other suggested features and make the whole thing as fully cross-browser as possible?
That would be sensational. I'll probably replace the button bar you have with a VS.NET style (I can hear the groans) menu bar.
Thanks Jason!!
cheers,
Chris Maunder
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Chris Maunder wrote:
The spaces are because some smileys need spaces around them to ensure they aren't mixed up with legit words (eg : D needs a space after the 'D' so that something like ::DestroyWindow isn't turned into estroyWindow)
Ah, I thought it was something like that. I will add this to my list of things to look over and fix.
Chris Maunder wrote:
That would be sensational. I'll probably replace the button bar you have with a VS.NET style (I can hear the groans) menu bar.
Groans, what groans? *looks around confusedly* Why would anyone groan? I was originally planning on doing it that way myself, it was just easier to prototype it this way first. (great minds do think alike I guess )
I will get started on finishing this up asap, but right now I am going home to bed. :yawn:
Jason Jystad
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Oh yeah, one other thing...
What in tarnation is a Drop Bear?
Jason Jystad
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Yee gods, and I parked under a tree today! *slinks away looking up*
Jason Jystad
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Very nice. The interface is a little unfriendly at first but the work it does is very impressive. Nice one.
Michael
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I suspect Chris is going to change the interface, but I would be curious to know if there is anything you would do different to solve the issues you noticed? I am always looking for different views and trying to improve my skills, especially usability.
Jason Jystad
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I'd have prefered the cursor to have been placed between the tags rather than at the end because thats what I'd expected to happen.
The buttons looked a little silly, different sizes and the one with combination of upper and lower case. Didn't look right to me.
These are all issues that would probably have been sorted out in the real implementation rather than in your test page. Nothing major, just me being picky. 
Michael
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Michael P Butler wrote:
These are all issues that would probably have been sorted out in the real implementation rather than in your test page
You are correct, the presentation is something that Chris is going to make quite different anyway so I was being silly and the cursor between the tags is something I am working on it is just being difficult.
Michael P Butler wrote:
Nothing major, just me being picky.
Not at all, these things are important. Thanks.
Jason Jystad
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Jason Jystad wrote:
I bring you the Code Project Posting Toolbar.
<a href="http://" target="_blank">http:
*sigh* Not even my friends support me
Very cool toolbar Jason.
An "instant preview" (done client side, no server call) would be nice. Not hard to do with IE's HTML features. Shout if you want the code.
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge
Tim Smith wrote:
Over here in the third world of humor (a.k.a. BBC America),
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Paul Watson wrote:
*sigh* Not even my friends support me
Ok, what'd I miss? I sense a missed thread here. Fill me in.
Jason Jystad
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There's a thread somewhere in the lounge where Paul posted a link then Nish got upset that it didn't open in a new window. Long story short, Paul thinks all links should open in the same window (so those who want it to open in the same window can, and those who want it in a new window can as well) and Nish thinks links to a different domain should open in a new window.
James
Simplicity Rules!
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Ah, that makes sense then. Thanks James.
I guess I am going to have to respectfully disagree with Paul on this one.
Actually I would agree with him, except I frequently use a browseing hider service that makes my right click to open a link in a new window not work right. It does handle links that open new windows correctly though. This is really the only reason I disagree.
In case you're interested the service I use is orangatango [new window]
Jason Jystad
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Hi Chris,
Just wondering if it would be possible to have a button or some way of posting a message saying "I'm off" or somethign to that effect. Just to let people know your gone. I know it can be annoying for when your in the middle of a conversation and people just disappear [god know's I've done it enough]
Now this post wouldn't and shouldn't be added to you list of messages posted. [maybe just appear as a title in the message board]
Anyway. I'm off now
"Isn't that the "write once, debug everywhere" language?" Tom Archer on Java...
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Brian Delahunty wrote:
or some way of posting a message saying "I'm off" or somethign to that effect
Download Sonork, get an account, put the number at the bottom of all your messages. Then people can add you and see if you are online or not
Admitedly your idea is very nice (ICQ has some code like this that you can plug into your website showing your status) and I have many ideas for merging IM and forums into a more active and better conversation space. Both have their plus points and negative points but together I think they would be sublime.
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge
Tim Smith wrote:
Over here in the third world of humor (a.k.a. BBC America),
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Just an idea (aren't they all) but how about providing an XML feed of all (or even just the top) forums?
I am itching to write an app which works much like the news readers of old but for the CP forums. The app would connect to the XML feed, get the new posts/topics/threads and then present it to the user to read. Naturally posting back to CP would be out at the moment as that would mean more work than you need Chris, but the feed would be simple enough to set up. (for posting back a link in the app would open the right URL in the users browser window.)
This would also cut down on all that HTML and JavaScript you have to send with each forum page. Also the app could have some really good search and filtering features (want to see only posts without the word "gotten" in them? no problem.)
And of course the XML feed would be great for other things, like on other websites or in the screensavers (imagine an auto-updating screensaver which shows Nish's posts as they are posted and with an updating graph of his manic posting  )
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge
"Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
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How would your app cope with the adverts, as people using your app to read the forum would cut down on CP's revenue.
Michael
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Michael P Butler wrote:
How would your app cope with the adverts, as people using your app to read the forum would cut down on CP's revenue.
Egad, poke a great big bloody hole in my unsinkable idea would you! Should have named it TitanicML.
Ok, fair enough. One solution is that the app I create has an advert feed built into it as well (much like Opera's advert bar.) People might get pissed off, but then CP has adverts as well, so it would be the same content, same adverts, better "service." (no offence Chris, but you would probably agree that the web is hardly the greatest interface ever.)
Of course people could make their own apps which use the feed but have no adverts. Then we could set up a simple user system around the feed that only certain users could, err, use. If Chris so wished then that XML feed (which is valuable content) could be charged for (much like MoreOver.com does.)
Well pointed out Michael. But ultimately I would love to see the XML feed as being free and unrestricted, but then Chris would love to have free servers lying around to cope with the demand.
Right now, I could, if I desperately and insanely wanted to, scrape the HTML sent back by CP to me for the content and construct that into an XML feed. Of course I would be mad to do so, but I could.
regards,
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South Africa
The greatest thing you'll ever learn is just to love, and to be loved in return - Moulin Rouge
"Reports of my death have been greatly exaggerated."
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