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Now here's an oddity (Win2K)

13-May-02 13:59

Brian Delahunty wrote:
if your using a proxy server

No proxy Frown | :(

thanks for trying though

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DDEML

Valeria2-May-02 9:23

Valeria

2-May-02 9:23

Hi,

I have a DDE server running on a Windows 98 plattform.
A DDE client , executed by IIS (internet Information Server), communicAtes with it and everything is OK. Both, client and server uses ddeml. When I try to do the same on WinNT or Windows 2000 I have the following problem: the DDE client , executed by IIS, attempts to communicate with the DDE server but, the server never receives the message. But, when I run this DDE client from the shell (on NT or 2000), again, everything is right. The client sends the message and the server receives it. The DDEspy reports DDE activities when the client is executed from shell, but when it is called for the IIS, DDEspy doesnt report DDE activity, it seems like ther are running in different machines because dont see each other. DDE server andl DDE client are in https/cgi-win, the file system is FAT.

Could anybody help me? Thanks
Valeria león
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Roger Wright1-May-02 15:44

1-May-02 15:44

I finally got around to connecting my old Win2K Pro PC to the Win2K Server today. I added the old pc to the Active Directory, made a Domain User account for my old logon, hooked them both into the switch and enabled the interfaces. NAT is installed on the external interface, and the server internal interface is configured at 192.168.x.y per the online instructions. I also added a subnet for the internal network to the Active Directory.

The curious part is that when I attempt to join the domain from the client, it reports that the network path couldn't be found, yet I can ping the server without trouble! Even more surprising is that from the client, with no physical connection to the outside world except thru the server, I can surf the 'net without trouble!

Any ideas as to where I should look for the trouble?

Dana Holt10-May-02 4:14

Dana Holt

10-May-02 4:14

I have experienced this before, but after I let the workstation stay connected to the network for a few hours I was able to join the domain.

I have no good idea why it took so long though.

Did you ever get it to work?

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Roger Wright10-May-02 5:54

10-May-02 5:54

I had given up for a while, but your reply got me to tinkering with it again. Using NAT on the server is supposed to act as a DHCP server to the local clients, but that's not happening. So I hardwired the IP settings on the client. I also forgot that I had ZoneAlarm onthe old PC, so I disabled it. The wizard for joining a domain still doesn't work (can't find the domain), but the second option to change the domain worked! I can now view the network (but not the shares on the server - more work to be done there), and access the client from the server.

Unfortunately, whenever the local network is enabled on the server, I can no longer find anything on the web - I get a lot of activity on the local net but it never tries the external interface. Back to the drawing board Big Grin | :-D

Dana Holt10-May-02 6:45

Dana Holt

10-May-02 6:45

Roger Wright wrote:
Using NAT on the server is supposed to act as a DHCP server to the local clients, but that's not happening.

NAT is unrelated to DHCP, so you will have to configure DHCP as another step. That is unless you are using some kind of wizard that does both at the same time behind the scenes.

Roger Wright wrote:
Unfortunately, whenever the local network is enabled on the server, I can no longer find anything on the web - I get a lot of activity on the local net but it never tries the external interface. Back to the drawing board

You should try to do a tracert to a web address to see where the traffic is going. Your routing table should contain a default route that goes out your external (internet) NIC. This will let all addresses not on your internal network go out to the net.

You can use "route print" to see the routing table and "route /?" to get available routing commands.

Isn't networking fun? Eek! | :eek:

Good luck!

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Xenos Software

Roger Wright10-May-02 7:06

10-May-02 7:06

Dana Holt wrote:
That is unless you are using some kind of wizard that does both at the same time behind the scenes.

According to the Win2K documentation, that's exactly what NAT is supposed to do. I'm ignoring it for now, since the static settings aren't all that tough to maintain (one client).

Dana Holt wrote:
You should try to do a tracert to a web address to see where the traffic is going.

No need. Like your experience, now that it's been running a while, it's learning where to look as it builds a routing table Big Grin | :-D

Dana Holt wrote:
Isn't networking fun?

Actually, yes it is! That's why I've been doing it for 7 years. But this is my first Win2K server, and as with all networking products, the docs are misleading and often plain wrong. Stumbling around in the dark a lot is part and parcel of networking... Laugh | :laugh:

Thanks for your suggestions!

Dana Holt10-May-02 7:14

Dana Holt

10-May-02 7:14

Roger Wright wrote:
Actually, yes it is! That's why I've been doing it for 7 years. But this is my first Win2K server, and as with all networking products, the docs are misleading and often plain wrong. Stumbling around in the dark a lot is part and parcel of networking...

Yeah, I used to stumble around in the dark with networking, but now I stumble around in the dark with programming! Laugh | :laugh:

Roger Wright wrote:
Thanks for your suggestions!

You're welcome.

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Xenos Software

Service Permissions

Matt Newman29-Apr-02 16:47

29-Apr-02 16:47

I am trying to make a Web Server as a NT Service, but for some reason it doesn't work, Do I need to be logged into a special account? I am using XP Home, I tried logging the service in as NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService but it asks me for a password.[EDIT]I was able to type in my user account password but when i tried to start it it game me the following error:

Could not start the [ServiceName] service on Local Computer
Error 5: Access is denied
What does that mean? And what should I do?[/EDIT]

Thanks if you can help

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Roger Wright30-Apr-02 7:20

30-Apr-02 7:20

Create a new service account with permissions appropriate to what your program needs to access, assign it a password, then run it as that user.

Matt Newman30-Apr-02 15:12

30-Apr-02 15:12

I tried doing that but it just gives me Access Denied.

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Richard Deeming20-May-02 5:35

Richard Deeming

20-May-02 5:35

For NT AUTHORITY\NetworkService, delete everything in the password box, and it should go.

To let it run under a user account, you need to give the account permissions to log on as a service: Administrative Tools → Local Security Settings → User Rights Assignment → Log on as a Service

Matt Newman20-May-02 11:38

20-May-02 11:38

I found out my permissions problem was where the files were located. They were in a private folder. Thanks for the help though Smile | :)

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Java Console Weirdness

Roger Wright27-Apr-02 16:31

27-Apr-02 16:31

I just noticed that I have two copies of the Java 2 runtime console sitting in the system tray. I know it loads at startup, but it normally shows only one icon. I think the second showed up today, as I don't recall seeing it yesterday. The only new apps I've opened today are InterDev and a Sonork conference. It hasn't been booted in a couple of weeks. Has anyone got any idea what might have invoked the second instance?

Roger Wright29-Apr-02 9:42

29-Apr-02 9:42

It just got weirder. Yesterday the second instance disappeared on its own. This morning, both are gone. Confused | :confused:

Giles29-Apr-02 9:50

Giles

29-Apr-02 9:50

Havwe you installed something like Opera 6 with Java 1.3, and then something else with Java 1.4. I had that and ity messed things up badly. Had multiple copies in the Control Panel, but were different versions.

Roger Wright29-Apr-02 13:45

29-Apr-02 13:45

While both were displayed, I checked the properties of each. Same version. As far as I know, I haven't got any Java-based apps running. The only thing I've loaded in a while is the Sonork client and the CodeProject search bar. 'tis a mystery Smile | :)

Roger Wright30-Apr-02 7:17