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why only the Lounge ?
the guy i shown off spammed only articles message boards
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If the idea has merit and people like it then Chris can do it wherever he wants. The lounge would be a good proving ground. If it's manageable in the lounge then it would be very manageable anywhere else as the lounge is definitely the hotbed for this stuff.
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On forums other that the Lounge some people might want a quick reply, and putting the delay just causes a bad impression/unnecessary inconvenience to the poster. It is quite likely the person will not come back.
Also there will be timezone issues, so there might be sufficient volunteers during US/European/Australian day, but Asian posters might have to wait a few hours before their posts show up.
As a general rule, it is advisable
not to volunteer for anything that requires more than a constant time.
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Basically there is a default flag for new users and a flag for any user that breaks the rules. This flag is "Probation" if you are a new user your first 100 posts have to be approved. If you pass the 100 post rule without getting any rejected you are in. You stay on probation though until you have 100 with no problems.
If you are a current member and you have been reported as "Abuse / Spam" on 3 separate occurrences by 3 or more people you are now on "Probation" and either an admin or a stored procedure could do this.
The only posts needing approval would be those by "New Members" or "Probate Members" and only in the lounge. So you have to understand we might be talking about 20 messages or so a week total. There would be almost no burden at all to "approvers".
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I would rather people are considered innocent until proven guilty. Their probation flag is set to false until they mess up (regardless of how many posts). Then their posts need approval for the next N posts
And then they just create a new account.
Nah. I like new people coming to CodeProject and giving us their 2c. I don't want people having to make an investment in us so that we get the benefit of their (potentially breif) company as they breeze on through our part of town.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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I happen to agree with this, and I for one wouldn't want to have to monitor the first 100 posts of every new visitor. There's millions of them. 
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The best troll management is to simply not reply to them. They will soon get bored. The resident trolls are probably reading this thread right now and laughing their fool heads off. They got another one.
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PJ Arends wrote: The best troll management is to simply not reply to them. They will soon get bored. The resident trolls are probably reading this thread right now and laughing their fool heads off. They got another one.
5.
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So true.
Just try to imagine the agony of a troll who spent some time to think of a mischief, created a new thread and then keeps refreshing the page waiting for replies but not one arrives.;P
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why don't we put request delete and mark as troll
if a user posted a matter not acceptable for lounge any body can request delete to the message poster with it all subsequent messages should be deleted
and a user is continuously getting that and not deleting his posts then admins can mark him as troll and that member will not be able to post message in that particular forum for a period of time which will increase on repetition
It is Good to be Important but!
it is more Important to be Good
[My Question]
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I just posted an article[^] about Windows Workflow Foundation but there wasn't a WF category to put it into. Might you please add that category and then put my article into it? I'd appreciate it.
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Done[^]
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Thanks Chris. I think that the new category is misplaced, though. WF is part of .NET 3.0 -- so it should be a sub-category under the "Vista / .NET 3.0" category, like WPF and WCF are. Agreed?
Thanks again!
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I'm confused. When I view My Articles[^], the edited WPF articles appear in a sub-section of the Vista / .NET 3.0 category. But my WF article appears separately. Why is that? 
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Because we haven't moved your WPF articles to the newly (less than 2hrs old) WPF section 
[Edit: Now they've been moved]
-- modified at 17:00 Tuesday 14th November, 2006
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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Oh. 
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I wonder if this option could be set as on or off by default in your profile might be desirable to other members here.
Now I can understand it being on by default for postings concerning an article that one might submit. But I wouldn't mind if I didn't always have to uncheck it for a forum post/reply.
Oh well just something that has been on my mind of late
Laterz...
It's all good man, it's all good...
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Yeah, good point.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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As an extra point just think of how much processor time you can save
It's all good man, it's all good...
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Hi,
I have several articles on CodeProject but the number is not very likely to increase any more. It is just too much work to update existing articles. CodeProject would like authors to use the GetHTML function to retrieve an articles source code using the GetHTML function. The html code I get with this function is a complete mess, no structure whatsoever left! Have you ever seen the code you get back? What are the steps performed by CodeProject that transform a properly formated html article into such a chaotic structure?
Regards,
Ingo
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I'm not sure I see what the problem with the HTML is. If the HTML you get using the "Get HTML" is just so awful you can't deal with it, then just send us the original HTML you sent with whatever changes you need. We'll work with you to make updates easy.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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I did'nt say i can't deal with it i said the complete structure is gone and it is very hard to deal with it. My problem is that the indenting is gone, all comments are gone, most line breaks are either gone or moved since the html code seems to be formatted more or less into a monolithic block. (probably to optimize for low bandwidth) Closing tags appear on places where I don't expect them or they completely disappear. Editing table content without proper indentation is very difficult because I cant find the proper fields any more.
For updates I use a text editor. So every time I want to make an update i download the code, reformat in order to get a little structure back, apply the changes and resubmit it. Just to do the same the next time. This stopped being fun after two updates, I don't have time for this.
Letting your editors change the html is fine but does not work when making a lot of changes. It seems it is much easier to use unedited reader contributions since i assume that when choosing this option comments, indentations and linebreaks are where i left them . (until the article gets a review)
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Chris Maunder wrote: just send us the original HTML you sent with whatever changes you need
Tried that once, the only help I got was an E-mail telling me to use the "Get HTML" button and to re-submit my article. I've only written two articles for your site, but to be honest, after the attitude I was given and all the 'please do it again' I got, I am very weary about submitting anything new.
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We try very hard to ensure that updating articles is easy both for the submitter and for us. Often we can spend several hours formatting a messy Word-generated article only to have an author resubmit the same article with a minor change the following day. Asking the author to dowload the formatted HTML means they get to see how we clean up the HTML (which then helps them understand how to help us) and saves us sometimes hours of work.
Without knowing the context of the email you received asking you to use the "Get HTML" button I can't comment. But I would be very surprised if you were given an "attitude" since Smitha is possibly the nicest human being I've met in my life, barring my mother of course.
If you ever have a problem, though, then email me at chris -at- codeproject.com and I'll gladly help in whatever way I can.
cheers,
Chris Maunder
CodeProject.com : C++ MVP
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